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Here's today's contribution to the goodness thread. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wedding-party- ... ePage=true It reminds me that goodness can be found in small things as well as in big.
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Thanks, Brad.

This clip as several pictures - some you have to pause unless you read fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJWrBjdI4HY
There are many good people out there - and there's good in everyone!

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A act of kindness that I carry out whenever possible to help make others happy is to strongly advise those who express an interest in Mormonism to do their research on the subject carefully, using neutral sources such as Mormon Think and other non-LDS sources and resources.

To my knowledge, I haven't lost one to the missionaries yet, and that makes ME happy.
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I find this a pretty good example of goodness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txTdcqDTL9E
18 And the man said: The woman thou gavest me, and commandest that she should remain with me, she gave me of the fruit of the tree and I did eat. Moses 4:18

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DrW,
I've done similarly, but it generally makes them and me sad because it seems to hurt relationships - especially when some put the church above relationships and even God.

ZubZooOan,
Cute clip! And it reminds me of the admiration I have for those who have such struggles and those who care for them.


Another example of amazing goodness came to mind.
We were discussing the difference between virtue and righteousness - and how ultimately righteousness is a higher but more complex goal. Virtue is kind of like letter of the law - whereas doing what's right may be more the spirit of the law/circumstantial. IE: There are times to break the law - like Socrates, Jesus and Martin Luther King Jr. did. That is sometimes partly how positive/healthy progress happens.

This unknown man of courage - with his grocery bag in hand - makes me think of how doing the right thing at the right time in the right way is often inconvenient - which is why "many are called but few are chosen." Often, such lose their lives, but they help or even save the lives of others - in one way or another.

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Mothers - we owe so much to them, and fathers.

When You Just Want to Quit Being a Mom
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6551888? ... mg00000037

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Ok, the following are movie scenes about truth, but I believe similar events have happened, and they are part of common consciousness to be in such a medium, IMO.

Integrity/Defending Truth:
To Kill a Mockingbird -closing statement at trial
http://youtu.be/8MmtVx1A8BA

I am Jean Valjean. Les Mis court
http://www.wingclips.com/movie-clips/le ... n-val-jean

Lie Detector -Meet the family fawkers
(What would be funny to do w/ those who prefer comfortable lies over inconvenient truths. :smile: )
http://youtu.be/jgyZ7yb2mmI

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Amore wrote:I am Jean Valjean. Les Mis court
http://www.wingclips.com/movie-clips/le ... n-val-jean

Our godson singing Jean Valjean of Les Miserables:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqPsiTYGviI



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He is an operette/musical singer.
(https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... P%C3%A9ter)
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Les Misérables is a story where people struggling with justice, and the need for mercy and grace ----- a tug of war between the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. It is an anguish cry to God for hope and redemption. In Les Misérables our hero acts nobly not out of feelings of guilt but out of a sense of gratitude to God for redeeming his soul. This is a very moving story if one accepts notions of God, spirit, and the soul.......

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I nominate Andrea Dworkin. She was a fierce egalitarian who demonstrated love and respect for all human beings.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I nominate Andrea Dworkin. She was a fierce egalitarian who demonstrated love and respect for all human beings.

- Doc
"...her mother was the child of Jewish emigrants from Hungary."
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- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei

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Jean Valjean's story is inspiring in many ways - especially how he could go from hate to love repeatedly, especially in praying for the well-being of Cosette's love.

Beautiful song, Ludwigm!

Film/acting/writing/music - all that goes into creating entertaining or especially inspiring movies - is intriguing!
We were tempted to get into the industry but chose family instead.
Still, I admire the sacrifice some give in creating really good art - as one director said, it is usually out of a sense of struggle with harsh realities of this life.
I admire those who relatively few, who fight the good fight.

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LittleNipper wrote:Les Misérables is a story where people struggling with justice, and the need for mercy and grace ----- a tug of war between the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. It is an anguish cry to God for hope and redemption. In Les Misérables our hero acts nobly not out of feelings of guilt but out of a sense of gratitude to God for redeeming his soul. This is a very moving story if one accepts notions of God, spirit, and the soul.......


Les Misérables is a fictional story of two men who have an epiphany. One who can except it (Valjean) and one who cannot (Javert). Valjean turns his life to altruism. Javert commits suicide.
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Quasimodo wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Les Misérables is a story where people struggling with justice, and the need for mercy and grace ----- a tug of war between the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. It is an anguish cry to God for hope and redemption. In Les Misérables our hero acts nobly not out of feelings of guilt but out of a sense of gratitude to God for redeeming his soul. This is a very moving story if one accepts notions of God, spirit, and the soul.......

Les Misérables is a fictional story of two men who have an epiphany. One who can except it (Valjean) and one who cannot (Javert). Valjean turns his life to altruism. Javert commits suicide.

Months ago I learned that the novel as a whole is one of the longest ever written ... (and I did read it when I was six. Or seven.)

I watched (maybe) all films. I prefer the 1958 version with Jean Gabin and Bernard Blier. Mighty actors. (Valjean/Javert)



by the way
Digressions
More than a quarter of the novel—by one count 955 of 2,783 pages—is devoted to essays that argue a moral point or display Hugo's encyclopedic knowledge, but do not advance the plot, nor even a subplot, a method Hugo used in such other works as The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Hey Quasimodo...) and Toilers of the Sea. One biographer noted that "the digressions of genius are easily pardoned"
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei

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Quasimodo wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Les Misérables is a story where people struggling with justice, and the need for mercy and grace ----- a tug of war between the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. It is an anguish cry to God for hope and redemption. In Les Misérables our hero acts nobly not out of feelings of guilt but out of a sense of gratitude to God for redeeming his soul. This is a very moving story if one accepts notions of God, spirit, and the soul.......


Les Misérables is a fictional story of two men who have an epiphany. One who can except it (Valjean) and one who cannot (Javert). Valjean turns his life to altruism. Javert commits suicide.

The beauty of parables and art is that there is no single right or wrong interpretation.

Quasimodo, I think your interpretation is interesting and valid - even relevant when we come to accept paradox of the need for motivating but also reasonable beliefs.

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Guy helps out homeless guy
https://youtu.be/4Lki_IeM6bQ

Street performers give in a couple ways
https://youtu.be/gdZutng4ejE

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