A New Paradigm for the Book of Abraham and the KEP

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A New Paradigm for the Book of Abraham and the KEP

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http://egyptianalphabetandgrammar.blogspot.com/
This is my blog for my research on the Book of Abraham and on the Kirtland Egyptian Papers.
At first I just had a paper on this subject and thought of writing a book on it, but I have decided to move all of the evidence and research to this blog.

My email address is kokobim@gmail.com if you wish to contact me.

I am not looking for a fight, but with the utmost respect, I am looking for help from reasonable people, not mean spirited dismissive people.
If you are a believer and you are on this board, and you think my theory has merit, then please help me in my research.

I am not looking to fight with ex-Mormons on this. If you are going to dismiss me and just be a hater, or mock, don't bother replying, and don't bother contacting me.

But I do hope that individuals like Brent Metcalfe will take a serious look at what I have done, because he seems to be a reasonable man from what I have read, a man that is interested in getting to the truth of a matter.

FAIR is aware of this theory. I can't really get much feedback from apologists, because naturally, they think that what I have done is impossible. I think that my theory is better than any previous apologetic on the Book of Abraham, because I actually explain the evidence in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers rather than evade it.

Interestingly, the times that I have tried to post this theory on the MAD board in the last four or so years, have just resulted in apologists running me off the board and mocking me.

Since apologists in general seem to be not interested in a theory that actually explains the problems that their theories evade, and are basically ignoring it, I am going to the "belly of the beast" so to speak on a forum like this, looking for feedback from reasonable and open-minded individuals on here, if they exist.

I want to get agreement from reasonable individuals here, not necessarily that they agree with me, but that, if something is to be done, this is the only type of approach that will yield results if any are to be found. If you don't agree, I'm looking for suggestions on how to improve this. I wish this could be a collaborative effort between believers if there are any. If there aren't, then I'm seriously looking for feedback on how to improve from reasonable people from whatever ideology you belong to.

You have to understand that I am not willing to give up on Joseph Smith because I know Joseph Smith is a prophet, and I know something is going on. I believe that is a reasonable position, even if you don't. So please understand that if you tell me that the only option is to give up and admit Joseph Smith was a fraud, that is the one place I will not go, so don't bother doing that please.

I believe I already have real results, although these results have many unexpected implications that have yet to be explained. But of course, I am me.

Anyone, including ex-Mormons are welcome to try to falsify the claims if they wish, but I hope they would do it in a spirit of human kindness rather than mean spirit. If you plan to tell me that this is hopeless and to just give up, don't bother.

It would actually help strengthen my arguments in the long run if reasonable individuals are willing to collaborate with me in some way.

Although most "falsifications" at this point may only end up being dismissals from ex- and Anti-Mormons. If so, oh well.

This is something that would be valuable to Mormons, and it is reasonable, in fact, much more reasonable than the Missing Papyrus Theory or the Catalyst theory or anything else that has come along, in my opinion.
Why? Because my theory actually has results and actually explains the evidence in a Faith-Promoting way, without evading the evidence of the translations in the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar. Rather, this theory embraces them.

To Paul Osborne. You should have stuck with me man, because I have done what we were trying to do. It is never too late to come back and join me brother.

If you are just going to reply to this and mock me or dismiss me without actually taking the time and effort to falsify what I have done, then don't bother, because we all know that that doesn't get anybody anywhere.

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You are welcomed.
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ludwigm wrote:You are welcomed.


Thank you.

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Ed,

Paul cannot respond to you here. His posting privileges are limited to the telestial forum.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."

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Fence Sitter wrote:Ed,

Paul cannot respond to you here. His posting privileges are limited to the telestial forum.


Thank you for the information.

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What kind of help, specifically, are you seeking?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)

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Bazooka wrote:What kind of help, specifically, are you seeking?


Ideally, I'm looking for people to help that want to do research. Individuals that are believers like Paul Osborne used to be, that was interested in helping out with the research in this area of study.

On the other hand, I want open-minded critics to point out why, with substantive arguments, why something is not plausible or why something is not a good argument. Not with dismissals. But real substantive feedback.

That is the only way that the research will become bullet proof.

thanks

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EdGoble wrote:
Bazooka wrote:What kind of help, specifically, are you seeking?


Ideally, I'm looking for people to help that want to do research. Individuals that are believers like Paul Osborne used to be, that was interested in helping out with the research in this area of study.

On the other hand, I want open-minded critics to point out why, with substantive arguments, why something is not plausible or why something is not a good argument. Not with dismissals. But real substantive feedback.

That is the only way that the research will become bullet proof.

thanks


There was a poster on here called "moinmoin" who had an interest in the Book of Abraham. He was a believing member of the Church who had done a lot of research into the Book of Abraham. He didn't try to hide who he was in feral life as he linked in posts to his IRL articles and pictures. If you research him on here you may be able to contact him IRL to try and critique your work. I think he will do so in the spirit that you are seeking.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)

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Bazooka wrote:
There was a poster on here called "moinmoin" who had an interest in the Book of Abraham. He was a believing member of the Church who had done a lot of research into the Book of Abraham. He didn't try to hide who he was in feral life as he linked in posts to his IRL articles and pictures. If you research him on here you may be able to contact him IRL to try and critique your work. I think he will do so in the spirit that you are seeking.


Thanks for the lead.

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