Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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I would only add that it’s a no-win game if she plays, which it seems you are implying if I am interpreting you correctly.

Marjorie Newton, based on some responses I’ve read from her editors and from Midgley, already seems to have concluded that there are other options besides playing Midgley’s game, namely ignoring him entirely, and continuing to interact with the legitimate academic and research world, which of course excludes his rants, personal attacks, and bizarre Interpreter reviews. Colvin seems on that path as well. More power to them.
Yes! Thanks, Lemmie. No, she does not have to play. It is, in the end, the best choice, imo. Lou’s game is really for the home audience. He appears legit to them by offering his option, but anyone outside of that home audience will see what the game is really about. This is why people often choose not to play their game on their terms. Of course, their next move is to claim the opposition is cheating somehow—another move for the home audience’s appreciation—but such a claim is usually nonsense.

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Philo wrote:Dan Peterson ALWAYS says he has the background story and information on any development
You'd already nailed it by the time you got this far, Philo.

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So, Dr. Midgley, why would the Area Authority and/or the Stake President, that are over Dr. Colvin's husband's ward, want to have you meet Dr. Colvin's husband and why would the Area Authority call you to see how the meeting went? Surely it wasn't at random. Did you have someone contact them prior to your arriving in Christchurch in order to have them arrange the meeting? Was it because they wanted something settled between the two of you? Or is this simply an invented story to cover your boorish behavior?
Doctor E., you're onto something here. This is the first thing I've read about the encounter that gave me a shocking glimpse of what was really going on. Until now it's just disjointed, there are all these people there and he said this, and this other guy said that, but okay, it was just a tornado in a junkyard type deal?

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Note that Midgley said the area president called him on his birthday. What are the odds this guy knew him and just called to wish him happy birthday without knowing anything about the Colvin visit, and Midgley has now stretched that into the area president following up on a task? Midgley has stretched so many stories well beyond exaggeration that the odds on likelihood is that this birthday greeting was just that, and Midgley is lying about the area president’s involvement.

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I understand that Lou would never put it in such terms, and I don't think it would be fair to credit him with being consciously aware of the implications of what he is doing. He lives in such a bubble of white privilege with all of its concomitant assumptions that it is quite literally impossible for him to see what he is doing. Because brown peoples have appropriated some Western ideas on their own terms in order to combat European colonialism, Lou and his friends condemn this move in a sort of tu quoque move that amounts to the pot accusing the kettle of being derivative and having an inferior shade of black (ahem). It is a no-win game for Gina. The only option she is given by Lou is to embrace his position. She has no other agency because Lou's white man God has already identified her personal choice to be fundamentally compromised.
Thanks for calling out Midgley's problem with white privilege. Yes his whole version of the Mormons and Maori is awash in cultural appropriation. Even if he loves them, at the base it is an action of racism. In this case the institutionalized racism as taught in LDS scripture and doctrine.

It is one thing to appropriate another culture, by wearing some of the clothing, imitating a hairstyle, or adopting some of the language or mannerisms. It is quite another and much more insidious to attempt to erase their history and overlay it with a made up mythology. At least for Native Americans that is just a continuation of Indian removal of the 1830's, Indian wars of the 1870's, the kill the indian save the man approach of the boarding schools, and finally the Tribal Termination policies of the 50's-60's which were lead by a Mormon Senator.

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Lol. Midgley has downvoted the poster EV, who has given Colvin an update on Midgley’s shenanigans:

EV • 7 days ago • edited

Hi Gina, just wanted to give you a heads up. Louis Midgley, the guy stalking you who tried to get info about you from your husband on a recent trip, is telling people the LDS Area President and LDS stake president set it up:

“ I was more than a little surprised when we arrived at one of the four meeting houses in the Christchurch Stake that the Stake President immediately directed me to Dr. Nathan McCluskley, who is Gina Colvin's husband. We immediately became good friends. And on March 12, the Area President phoned me and wanted to know if the Stake President had been successful in this endeavor.”
http://disq.us/p/29g26dl

I’m pretty sure it’s not true, but please, be aware of Midgley. He has been trashing you on Dan Peterson’s blog ever since he returned from his visit, making intrusive remarks about your personal life and saying your husband wanted to meet him.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kiwimormo ... 4925637876

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Lol. Midgley has downvoted the poster EV, who has given Colvin an update on Midgley’s shenanigans:

EV • 7 days ago • edited

Hi Gina, just wanted to give you a heads up. Louis Midgley, the guy stalking you who tried to get info about you from your husband on a recent trip, is telling people the LDS Area President and LDS stake president set it up:

“ I was more than a little surprised when we arrived at one of the four meeting houses in the Christchurch Stake that the Stake President immediately directed me to Dr. Nathan McCluskley, who is Gina Colvin's husband. We immediately became good friends. And on March 12, the Area President phoned me and wanted to know if the Stake President had been successful in this endeavor.”
http://disq.us/p/29g26dl

I’m pretty sure it’s not true, but please, be aware of Midgley. He has been trashing you on Dan Peterson’s blog ever since he returned from his visit, making intrusive remarks about your personal life and saying your husband wanted to meet him.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kiwimormo ... 4925637876
Totally stalking her. He just can’t let it go.

Midgley is fortunate that Colvin is ignoring him. He would get ripped up by her rather easily.

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Dr. Exiled Louis Midgley • 2 hours ago

Louis Midgley says:

"And, much to my surprise, his Stake President and the Area President and
also Nathan, were anxious that we meet. So much for stalking."

So, let me see if I understand you. You travel to New Zealand with your group and the Area President, Stake President and Dr. McCluskey were "anxious" as you put it that you have a meeting with Dr. McCluskey and you are wearing a name tag. So, how did the Area President, Stake President and Dr. McCluskey know you were coming to that very ward building on that day? You say you were surprised by the meeting, so, are you saying that spontaneously, the above three somehow knew you were coming and then became anxious to have you meet Dr. McCluskey, the husband of Gina Colvin? Also, why wear a name tag?

http://disq.us/p/29mwisa
Dr. Exiled continues to make excellent points. Meanwhile, Colvin has noted her husband didn’t know who Midgley was when Midgley approached him, but, apparently because Midgley was disingenuous, assumed he was a legitimate friend of Colvin. She set him straight.

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Kiwi needs to make sure he and Midgley get their stories straight, regarding Midgley’s stalking of Colvin:

Kiwi57 Dr. Exiled 13 hours ago

[dr exiled:]”Further, why even mention how many congregations there are for the community of Christ in New Zealand and if Ms. Colvin got it wrong? Who cares? Although, it was a great zinger for you and your buddies. You really got Ms. Colvin on that one.”

No it wasn't, and no he didn't.

It is mildly unusual that someone would join a church when there isn't a local congregation to meet with; unusual enough that it's worth remarking on. But it's certainly not impossible, and such things have been heard of. Mentioning it in nowise constitutes an accusation of any kind against Ms Colvin.

It would be interesting to know how she goes about meeting with her coreligionists, although in a post-Covid world, I rather suppose that online meetings remain a lot more common than formerly (i.e. three months ago.)

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4937079029
So kiwi feels Midgley was just expressing interest in how Colvin worshipped. He should have confirmed with Midgley before going with that lie:
Midgley:

Instead, I more than hinted that she is the only member of the Community of Christ south of Auckland. What is "creepy" about mentioning that she is likely to be the only member of that sinking ship in Christchurch?

I have exactly no interest in where or when she does her Anglican thing
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http://disq.us/p/26ep9kq
“What is ‘creepy’ “ indeed. Stalker Midgley sinks his own defense. Kiwi plays court fool.

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Midgley:

Instead, I more than hinted that she is the only member of the Community of Christ south of Auckland. What is "creepy" about mentioning that she is likely to be the only member of that sinking ship in Christchurch?

I have exactly no interest in where or when she does her Anglican thing
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Dr. Midgley should know better than to write of other people's religions disrespectfully. "Her Anglican thing?" It is called Anglican worship. Worship, Dr. Midgley. Try to remember that the next time you write of others' religious beliefs, if you are going to get up on your high horse regarding how people refer to your faith and its sacred practices.

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Kiwi57 Dr. Shades 21 hours ago

Shades, perhaps I wasn't clear enough before. Permit me to clarify now.
Your denials merely confirm what you try to deny because you have negative credibility.
Dan doesn't. Lou doesn't. Joseph Smith didn't.
But you do.
Is that clear now?
Your negative credibility was established for all time when you committed yourself on Gina Colvin's blog (you rarely have the courage to do that, anywhere) by accusing Lou of "stalking."
An accusation only a completely shameless liar would make.
An accusation only a completely shameless liar did make.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4936568794
Wow. McGregor is really going all out. Kind of silly, given that Midgley’s stalking is well established in Midgley’s own words and behavior. (Also, who posts like that? What a drama queen.)

It’s quite a rant for a guy who does this. Maybe he’s trying to rehabilitate his reputation.

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Lemmie wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:09 am
Wow. McGregor is really going all out. Kind of silly, given that Midgley’s stalking is well established in Midgley’s own words and behavior. (Also, who posts like that? What a drama queen.)

It’s quite a rant for a guy who does this. Maybe he’s trying to rehabilitate his reputation.
It seems that that is the only type of reaction that Baby McGreger is capable of. I really haven't seem him add anything substantial to any conversation on Sic et Non.

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Lemmie wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:09 am
Wow. McGregor is really going all out. Kind of silly, given that Midgley’s stalking is well established in Midgley’s own words and behavior. (Also, who posts like that? What a drama queen.)

It’s quite a rant for a guy who does this. Maybe he’s trying to rehabilitate his reputation.
It seems that that is the only type of reaction that Baby McGreger is capable of. I really haven't seem him add anything substantial to any conversation on Sic et Non.
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Looks like Lou Stalkerton Midgley doesn't want to play along with my questioning. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4936568794 Coach P told me to find a new topic or leave.

Anyway, Lou's story about his "chance" meeting with Gina Colvin's husband obviously doesn't make any sense other than as a stalking scenario. It's probably best that the accused remain silent.

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Gadianton wrote:
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Quite a fascinating rant by the proprietor. A young black girl working at a fast food joint failed to prove a linguistically adequate interlocutor for the great world-traveling white professor. The funny thing is, the great anglophile displayed his inadequate understanding of basic logic. He admitted to be pedantic; a defender of the precise meaning of words, and loathes the decline of proper speaking. The implication is that many folks out there would, for instance, be likely to misuse "a couple" to refer to values other than two. That means, when he places the order and says "a couple", the person taking the order has no way to know if the person giving the order is one of those who understands what "a couple" means or one of those who doesn't, and so the burden of clarification rests squarely on the shoulders of the belligerent customer in this case.
Bear in mind, Dean Robbers, that Dr. Peterson has just admonished the whole world that "weaponizing" the term "white privilege" is the *real* thing that people should be protesting. Maybe "a couple" of self-reflective moments are in order?

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His limited station is only as a praising Seraphim amongst the mighty Elohims........
Kerry, If you think of Dr. Peterson as Gozer the Gozerian, then it naturally follows that Midgley and Kiwi are the GateKeeper and the Key Master.

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Maybe "a couple" of self-reflective moments are in order?
Lol! Indeed professor, indeed.

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It’s interesting that Midgley’s retelling of the story amounts to the men folk getting together to “deal with” one of their troublesome wives.

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My, my! It would seem that there is a new development in this saga:
Louis Midgley wrote:How could one possibly "investigate" in Christchurch where Gina Colvin may or may not attend church from a bloody cruise ship? What I posted is all in the public domain, Self Exiled. One cannot possibly leave a cruise ship some fifty miles of narrow, winding road from where one has to be tendered from the ship to the shore and then travel for two hours to Christchurch on a bus, and then leave a group and find on Sunday an entirely unknown Anglican church in the hope of just happening that it would be at one and at the right time and place were someone might or might not be doing their and then somehow find where the bus is so that one can get back to the ship so that one can board it before it leaves. Such a thing would be impossible for me at 89.

And I just this afternoon sent a photography of the card that Nathan McCluskey, who is Gina Colvin's husband to the disgusting Dr. Velho Burrinho, who has, like other disgusting swine, refused to believe that I actually met and befriended him at the chapel in Christchurch. I did this because I am very much annoyed at the absurd things he has posted in public about me.
(emphasis added)

Wow! Quite a bold move there, Dr. Midgley! Sending "a photography of the card" to Dr. LOD? Well, this should be pretty easy to verify. But, of course, there are a number of implausible things here. First, did McCluskey really send a "card" to Midgley? Why on earth would he do that? Second, how would Midgley even *know* how/where to send "a photography of the card" to Dr. LOD?

Very strange, but I will be waiting anxiously to see evidence of this "card" from Dr. McCloskey. If it doesn't materialize, then of course, Midgley is a liar.
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Midgley:

How could one possibly "investigate" in Christchurch where Gina Colvin may or may not attend church from a bloody cruise ship? What I posted is all in the public domain, Self Exiled. One cannot possibly leave a cruise ship some fifty miles of narrow, winding road from where one has to be tendered from the ship to the shore and then travel for two hours to Christchurch on a bus, and then leave a group and find on Sunday an entirely unknown Anglican church in the hope of just happening that it would be at one and at the right time and place were someone might or might not be doing their and then somehow find where the bus is so that one can get back to the ship so that one can board it before it leaves. Such a thing would be impossible for me at 89.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4952291159
Just wanted to document Midgley’s latest change of story in his attempt to justify stalking Gina Colvin. It’s getting pretty absurd.

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Stalky Stalkerton Midgley is clearly guilty of stalking Gina Colvin and her husband. What should the sentence be? Perhaps he should do some community service that teaches him how it is to be Maori, Mexican American, Native American or African American? I could recommend some areas in Las Vegas where he could serve that could teach him what reality is.
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