Mr Ballard says openly gay people welcome on Temple Square

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Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints want to be able to “go anywhere in the world to witness and testify to what we believe, and not be persecuted or threatened because of our position on Jesus Christ,” M. Russell Ballard, acting president of the faith’s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, told reporters after his exchange with Pence. “Everybody should have the same opportunity.”

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Well, he says he wants everyone to have the freedom to go anywhere and promote anything.
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Just don't act openly gay at temple square. Gay couple kissing? Quickly removed by church security.
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SteelHead wrote:Just don't act openly gay at temple square. Gay couple kissing? Quickly removed by church security.

This can't be true given Mr Ballards comments. He clearly wants people everywhere to have the opportunity to witness what gay people believe.
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No TRUE lds gay person would openly show their gayness. Right?
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Lemmie wrote:No TRUE LDS gay person would openly show their gayness. Right?

But Mr Ballard isn’t being restrictive in his comments. He makes the point that he/the Church feels that everyone should be allowed to demonstrate what they believe, everywhere without restriction. It follows that Mr Ballard must be therefore supportive of gay people being openly gay in and around Temple Square. He is saying that anti-mormons should be granted the right to openly witness what they believe during fast meetings and general conferences. This is real progress...
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I have a question wrote:
Lemmie wrote:No TRUE LDS gay person would openly show their gayness. Right?

But Mr Ballard isn’t being restrictive in his comments. He makes the point that he/the Church feels that everyone should be allowed to demonstrate what they believe, everywhere without restriction. It follows that Mr Ballard must be therefore supportive of gay people being openly gay in and around Temple Square. He is saying that anti-mormons should be granted the right to openly witness what they believe during fast meetings and general conferences. This is real progress...

:lol: You are absolutely correct. I withdraw my true Scotsman fallacy.
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Lemmie wrote: :lol: You are absolutely correct. I withdraw my true Scotsman fallacy.
Unless Mr Ballard was being disingenuous in his comments and was meaning that only True Scotsmen should be granted special witnessing privileges...nah, Mormon Leaders don't mislead people...right?
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