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 Post subject: Another blow to the Word of Wisdom: Coffee is Good
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:54 am 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... ws-n888356

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Even the heaviest coffee drinkers are less likely to die early than people who don’t drink coffee, new research finds.

It’s another piece of good news for coffee lovers, and it gets even better. It doesn’t matter what kind of coffee people drink — that includes decaf and instant coffee. And it also doesn’t matter what version of the “coffee gene” people have. Coffee-drinkers fared better than people who did not drink coffee.

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Not only that, but it makes life more enjoyable. So, longer and happier life. What's not to like?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:01 pm 
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Do Mormons live longer or die younger or are their lifespans similar to the rest of society? I remember at a young age hearing that we lived longer due to the wow. Can anyone point me to any studies done on this subject or other relevant information?

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Exiled wrote:
Do Mormons live longer or die younger or are their lifespans similar to the rest of society? I remember at a young age hearing that we lived longer due to the wow. Can anyone point me to any studies done on this subject or other relevant information?


Utah typically ranks very high in "healthiest states" rankings, and the low number of smokers is usually one of the reasons cited, which makes sense. There are no studies I'm aware of that correlate coffee drinking with poor health. Utah also ranks very high in depression, suicide, porn use, and other undesirable statistics, but that's because of all the non-mormons that live there.

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Loves me some coffee! Every day.

Jesus loves coffee. How do I know? He created it.

Joseph Smith loves coffee, and he drank it.

Every good Jack Mormon loves coffee.

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Run when others are weary. Be perky when others are faint.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:00 pm 
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Equality wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coffee-good-you-more-science-shows-n888356

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Even the heaviest coffee drinkers are less likely to die early than people who don’t drink coffee, new research finds.

It’s another piece of good news for coffee lovers, and it gets even better. It doesn’t matter what kind of coffee people drink — that includes decaf and instant coffee. And it also doesn’t matter what version of the “coffee gene” people have. Coffee-drinkers fared better than people who did not drink coffee.



Wait This can't be true. Are you saying that when God the almighty creator of the universe told Joseph Smith, to avoid hot drinks, which was later interpreted by Heber J. Grant to mean Coffee and Tea that God got it wrong? God is such a jokester...always clouding reality with His confusing ways. Sometimes I just instead wish he had told Joseph to wash is hands and boil his water instead of ban hot drinks AKA coffee and tea.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:38 pm 
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Bach's coffee cantata
http://emmanuelmusic.org/notes_translat ... bwv211.htm

3. Recitative B S
Schlendrian
You naughty child, you wild girl,
ah! When will I achieve my goal:
get rid of the coffee for my sake!

Liesgen
Father sir, but do not be so harsh!
If I couldn't, three times a day,
be allowed to drink my little cup of coffee,
in my anguish I will turn into
a shriveled-up roast goat.
4. Aria S
Ah! How sweet coffee tastes,
more delicious than a thousand kisses,
milder than muscatel wine.
Coffee, I have to have coffee,
and, if someone wants to pamper me,
ah, then bring me coffee as a gift

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:32 pm 
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Craig Paxton wrote:


Wait This can't be true. Are you saying that when God the almighty creator of the universe told Joseph Smith, to avoid hot drinks, which was later interpreted by Heber J. Grant to mean Coffee and Tea that God got it wrong? God is such a jokester...always clouding reality with His confusing ways. Sometimes I just instead wish he had told Joseph to wash is hands and boil his water instead of ban hot drinks AKA coffee and tea.


I guess we just add this to the ever growing list of things Joseph Smith got wrong.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:23 pm 
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Be perky when others are faint.

If God wanted all people to be awake, He would not have created so many fundamentalist and true blue believers.

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Exiled wrote:
Do Mormons live longer or die younger or are their lifespans similar to the rest of society? I remember at a young age hearing that we lived longer due to the wow. Can anyone point me to any studies done on this subject or other relevant information?


It’s a myth that abstaining from coffee and alcohol lets Mormons live longer. It just feels longer...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:36 am 
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As described on NPR regarding this report on the now clear benefits of coffee consumption, early (and not very well done) studies linking coffee drinking with increased mortality and morbidity neglected to disentangle coffee drinking from smoking.

Turns out that when these early studies were done people who drank coffee and smoked outnumbered those who drank coffee and did not smoke. That is, those who didn't drink coffee also tended not to smoke (probably Mormons.)

In any case, at the time, smoking was not recognized as harmful so smoking behavior was not controlled for in the early health effects studies of coffee consumption.

How times have changed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:54 pm 
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These sort of stupid cultural artifacts are all about identity markers and some autocratic jerk prophet/shaman bossing people in every particular for their sick jollies. Ptui.

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If God wanted all people to be awake, He would not have created so many fundamentalist and true blue believers.


They are not created as such but made and self-selected. It is the devil who wins people to spiritual slumber and idolatry, with the people’s consent. God did not create fundamentalism, just as he did not create religion.


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