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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:04 am 
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The White House and the Kremlin announced that the Putin-Trump BroFest will be held in Helsinki on July 16, 2018. Trump has yet to specify whether he will call for the banning of any Miss Finlands from the years 2005 to 2013 if Melania attends.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:09 am 
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Perhaps we’ll dissolve NATO because Putin finds it to be provocative.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:57 pm 
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Was considering the various aliases that Trump has used in promoting himself. But what about the alias Trump uses in private to describe himself? In particular, I was wondering about his self-moniker Magnifico Giganticus.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:38 pm 
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Trump's tweet this morning:

Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!

He is not only taking the word of the Russians, he is promoting it in his tweets. He promotes the word of the Russians over the intelligence services of the United States, as he prepares to head for a Summit with Putin (or as Stephen Colbert put it, his annual employee review).

Does the President truly believe the word of the Russians over his own government? And if so, what does that portend for the future of our country?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:02 pm 
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Trump's tweet this morning:

Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!

He is not only taking the word of the Russians, he is promoting it in his tweets. He promotes the word of the Russians over the intelligence services of the United States ...

Yes, but to his supporters, it doesn’t matter that Trump bows to Putin and disparages the nation’s top law enforcement organization. Their loyalty has been bought with a tax rebate of $3.50 a week and the chance to disparage brown folks.

Otherwise, this is sort of a big deal, isn’t it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:19 pm 
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Otherwise, this is sort of a big deal, isn’t it?

i suppose it is as big of a deal among Trump supporters as it was to Obama supporters in 2014, right?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/ ... nce-241547

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:30 pm 
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Otherwise, this is sort of a big deal, isn’t it?

i suppose it is as big of a deal among Trump supporters as it was to Obama supporters in 2014, right?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/ ... nce-241547

Obama never spent time publicly tweeting in support of Putin while simultaneously undermining the FBI or the conclusions of our own intel. That’s what is being discussed; are you not able to comprehend that, or are you just doing the usual dishonest distraction thing? ; )


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:49 pm 
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Obama never spent time publicly tweeting in support of Putin while simultaneously undermining the FBI or the conclusions of our own intel. That’s what is being discussed; are you not able to comprehend that, or are you just doing the usual dishonest distraction thing? ; )

So Trump tweets contrary to conclusions and Obama just ignored the conclusions - and just now the whole mess is a concern, only because your candidate lost.
The comprehension bar is not set that high, but if pointing out partisan hypocrisy on a frivolous hair fire is "dishonest distraction", then yeah maybe that last option?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:18 pm 
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So Trump tweets contrary to conclusions and Obama just ignored the conclusions -

There you go again, with another demonstration of your comprehension diffficulties. Your link states that the Administration took some measures but also may not have believed that Russian efforts could present any serious threat. Not only is this not the same as what you are saying above, but it’s also not the same as publicly tweeting that the Russians did nothing and that the Intel Community’s investigation of same was a ‘witch hunt’. Sorry to see that you cannot understand a difference, or are too dishonest to acknowledge a difference.


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and just now the whole mess is a concern, only because your candidate lost.

There you go again, with another demonstration of your comprehension diffficulties. We’re talking about a sitting President pushing the propaganda line of a foreign enemy and disparaging our own Intel Community for his own personal gain. Sorry to see that you cannot understand the difference, or are too dishonest to acknowledge a difference.


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The comprehension bar is not set that high, but if pointing out partisan hypocrisy on a frivolous hair fire is "dishonest distraction", then yeah maybe that last option?

There you go again, with another demonstration of your comprehension diffficulties. There is no partisan hypocrisy here because there was never an instance of Obama pushing the propaganda line of a foreign enemy and disparaging our own Intel Community for his own personal gain. Sorry to see that you cannot understand the difference, or are too dishonest to acknowledge a difference.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:42 pm 
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Once again subgenius goes for the “whatabout” and gets his ass handed to him. It astounds me that he puts so much faith in this stupid rhetorical ploy time after time. It so rarely works, and yet it seems to be what he’s got. Even where the comparison works, “whataboutism” fails because it treats the errors of one politician as acceptable so long as a political opponent also did something stupid. What we should hope for is voters who have the ability to critique people in power effectively and vote accordingly, not those who spend their time finding equivalent boners to justify bad decisions and bad behavior.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:08 pm 
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We’re talking about a sitting President pushing the propaganda line of a foreign enemy and disparaging our own Intel Community for his own personal gain.

Nope, because this statement right here applies to Obama...eg "80s called..."

and while you will conflate otherwise, the statement:

"Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! " does not push propaganda nor disparage anyone...you want it to mean something, but it doesn't mean anything other than what it says...its a simple statement of fact, unless you can cite where Russia is not saying this?

(if you're patient I might have an extra tin foil hat for ya).

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:53 pm 
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Well, I’ll be damned. I used to think that you’d wake up in the morning and have to choose between appearing to be either a fool for believing the stuff that you write here, or a liar for just trying to look like you do. Turns out that it might be both!

Let’s help resolve your comprehension difficulties, and review:

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canpakes wrote:
We’re talking about a sitting President pushing the propaganda line of a foreign enemy and disparaging our own Intel Community for his own personal gain.

Nope, because this statement right here applies to Obama...eg "80s called..."


Lol. What MdO wrote is what I’m talking about, which is this:

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Trump's tweet this morning:

Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!

He is not only taking the word of the Russians, he is promoting it in his tweets. He promotes the word of the Russians over the intelligence services of the United States ...


Yep, there’s nothing about Obama in there anywhere, nor did Obama ever do what Trump has done here, but because you’re incapable of handling that reality, you’re going to use Obama as an excuse for playing both the fool and the liar. This would almost be impressive if your claim wasn’t such a pitiful display of desperation.

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and while you will conflate otherwise, the statement:
"Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! " does not push propaganda nor disparage anyone...you want it to mean something, but it doesn't mean anything other than what it says...its a simple statement of fact, unless you can cite where Russia is not saying this?

Let me break it down into simple terms that even a parrot like you can understand:

1. A sitting President that tweets out this statement, and within the continually present context of his juvenile rants about being the subject of a ‘which hunt’, does so to disparage the very agencies, and the men and women within them that have sacrificed more than you would ever hope to, that have concluded that interference did occur.

More relevant, though, is this:

2. A sitting President that tweets out this statement, and within the continually present context of his juvenile rants about being the subject of a ‘which hunt’, commits the very action that he states the Russians claim not to have done. This very action is the best example of what Russian efforts aimed for - to sow division and confusion amongst the voting public.

Trump is an immature dupe but with just enough skill to know how to manipulate ignorant people, and you’re left committed to having to defend his disingenuousness ... but regardless of desperate attempts to deflect, you have no comparable examples for any of it to draw from that originated in the previous Administration.

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(if you're patient I might have an extra tin foil hat for ya).

I’ve been patient. So have a lot of other board participants who’ve asked for you to explain your hair fires from the last decade, none of which seem to have any evidence backing them up. As was asked prior, you're always free to ‘educate us’ on, say, your Clinton Kill List. ; )


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:40 am 
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subgenius wrote:
Nope, because this statement right here applies to Obama...eg "80s called..."


The 80's! You mean back when guys who badmouth other people's wives and children used to [violation of Universal Rule #7 deleted]?


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Virtually everything Trump tweets is a lie. Take for instance this recent nugget:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:59 am 
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Hawkeye wrote:
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Nope, because this statement right here applies to Obama...eg "80s called..."

The 80's! You mean back when guys who badmouth other people's wives and children used to [violation of Universal Rule #7 deleted]?

So, Wait, subfaps is a self loathing, “conservative” Mormon [deleted]? That really makes sense of his posting habits here. No wonder his humiliation fetish caused by the internal struggle between who he is allowed to be and who he wants to be dictates his entire posting history. Dude, be who you want to be! I get that you might not get a lot of acceptance in bumfook, flyoverstate but I support your desire to be who you want to be.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Virtually everything Trump tweets is a lie. Take for instance this recent nugget:

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Oh, if a Union rep says its a bad deal, then it must be....and he so Union, his campaign staff unionized...because nothing says political campaign like union dues being paid by campaign staffers?

yeah, this guy's tweet is a great source. :neutral:

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Trump's tweet this morning:

Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!

He is not only taking the word of the Russians, he is promoting it in his tweets.

Or he's calling them out for lying.

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So, Wait, subfaps is a self loathing, “conservative” Mormon [deleted]? That really makes sense of his posting habits here. No wonder his humiliation fetish caused by the internal struggle between who he is allowed to be and who he wants to be dictates his entire posting history. Dude, be who you want to be! I get that you might not get a lot of acceptance in bumfook, flyoverstate but I support your desire to be who you want to be.


WTH? I assumed Hawkeye was joking about subs lifestyle choice, my apologies, I would never use someones lifestyle preferences to make fun of them no matter how big a tool they are...

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration will encourage the nation’s school superintendents and college presidents to adopt race-blind admissions standards, abandoning an Obama administration policy that called on universities to consider race as a factor in diversifying their campuses, Trump administration officials said.

Ashley Beauregard, Dean of Admissions at the University of Alabama, vowed to not abuse this new policy but added, "We intend to be as pure as the driven snow in carrying it out".

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Oh, if a Union rep says its a bad deal, then it must be....and he so Union, his campaign staff unionized...because nothing says political campaign like union dues being paid by campaign staffers?

yeah, this guy's tweet is a great source. :neutral:

Don’t pay attention to that guy. Here’s an article from a bunch of communists who also demonstrate that President Cartman lied about the number of jobs, and that the deal is pretty lousy:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this- ... 2017-07-28


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