Please tell me this is fake

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Please tell me this is fake

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ICE created a fake University. Then targeted foreign born students to attend. Charged them tuition. Then arrested them and deported them. The students were here legally on student visas. But since the college was fake, the visas were invalid.

https://amp.freep.com/amp/4277686002?__ ... bDrhVjrktk
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Crazy. What’s the point? Do ICE agents need work, so they’re manufacturing a fake college to entice folks to obtain visas, come here and get arrested?
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canpakes wrote:Do ICE agents need work, so they’re manufacturing a fake college to entice folks to obtain visas, come here and get arrested?


It is not uncommon for enforcement agencies like ICE to be given targets to meet. Sadly, one result of that is the deliberate creation of 'offending' opportunities like this, which make it easy to meet those targets without having to do anything particularly useful or demanding.
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I understand setting traps for people here illegally, but in this case they're setting traps for people here LEGALLY and are getting them deported on a technicality.
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I had to read a couple of articles to actually understand what this was about.

The target of the investigation is people arguably running a scam on the foreign students. A student enters on a valid student visa. To keep it, he has to be progressing toward a degree. At some point, they are recruited to a different school. The recruiter charges them a hefty finders fee. The new school actually isn’t a real school — it offers no actual classes. What it does is hook them up with jobs. One can work while on a student visa, as long as one is taking classes and progressing toward a degree. But the fake schools don’t offer any classes at all, so the students are no longer entitled to stay here.

The ICE school was a sting, but the criminal charges are against the recruiters, not the students. But the students are not eligible to stay under the terms of their visas. ICE argues that reporting them is fair because they knowingly participated in the scam. They knew they had to be taking classes, they knew the school didn’t offer any classes, but they paid the recruiter fee because they wanted to stay here and work. And they didn’t have employment Visas. The students say the recruiter lied to them and said that what the school was doing was legal and that they would still be eligible to keep their visas.

I don’t know who is telling the truth, but that’s the story. The targets were the recruiter. The students are collateral damage. One could certainly argue that the fair thing to do would have been to give the students some period of time to enroll in a real school and get back in status.
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Res Ipsa wrote:I had to read a couple of articles to actually understand what this was about.

The target of the investigation is people arguably running a scam on the foreign students. A student enters on a valid student visa. To keep it, he has to be progressing toward a degree. At some point, they are recruited to a different school. The recruiter charges them a hefty finders fee. The new school actually isn’t a real school — it offers no actual classes. What it does is hook them up with jobs. One can work while on a student visa, as long as one is taking classes and progressing toward a degree. But the fake schools don’t offer any classes at all, so the students are no longer entitled to stay here.

The ICE school was a sting, but the criminal charges are against the recruiters, not the students. But the students are not eligible to stay under the terms of their visas. ICE argues that reporting them is fair because they knowingly participated in the scam. They knew they had to be taking classes, they knew the school didn’t offer any classes, but they paid the recruiter fee because they wanted to stay here and work. And they didn’t have employment Visas. The students say the recruiter lied to them and said that what the school was doing was legal and that they would still be eligible to keep their visas.

I don’t know who is telling the truth, but that’s the story. The targets were the recruiter. The students are collateral damage. One could certainly argue that the fair thing to do would have been to give the students some period of time to enroll in a real school and get back in status.


Ok, thanks RI, that seems far more plausible than the HS building a fake school.
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ICE argues that reporting them is fair because they knowingly participated in the scam. They knew they had to be taking classes, they knew the school didn’t offer any classes, but they paid the recruiter fee because they wanted to stay here and work. And they didn’t have employment Visas.
Which is a really good argument.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 317788002/

Was this inspired by Trump University?
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