Conservative on Republican Motivations

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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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subgenius wrote:
Gunnar wrote:Classic projection, nothing more!

A truer summary of the DNC platform and racism has yet to be posted.
Thanks Gunnar!

Not that you have much to show for your statement, as you shuffle backwards off stage in the face of the census question controversy.
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Then there's this development in the Hofeller files story:

http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2019/06/06 ... -election/
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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I'm pretty certain that MLK would react to the view expressed about him in this thread similar to the way fantasy Jesus would react to the Christian right.

What the “F” is your problem? Did you even hear what I said?
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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canpakes wrote:Not that you have much to show for your statement, as you shuffle backwards off stage in the face of the census question controversy.

Speaking of having nothing to show, you guys have yet to provide actual proof of "racism" being the motivating force behind Republican policy...let alone that it was the foundation for the census question in this thread's context.

Gerrymandering is not an exclusively racist endeavour, for example - Republicans utilize that political practice with the goal of getting more Republicans elected. Notwithstanding the debate over the effectiveness, morality, legality, and competence of such a strategy.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:I'm pretty certain that MLK would react to the view expressed about him in this thread similar to the way fantasy Jesus would react to the Christian right.

What the “F” is your problem? Did you even hear what I said?

oh look! another old white atheist liberal presuming to know the true intentions of brown Christians.
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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subgenius wrote:
Gerrymandering is not an exclusively racist endeavour, for example - Republicans utilize that political practice with the goal of getting more Republicans elected. Notwithstanding the debate over the effectiveness, morality, legality, and competence of such a strategy.


I don't keep slaves because I hate black people. I keep them because I like free labor. See? Not racist.

You have an inappropriately limited idea about what constitutes racism. Rigging the structure of democracy to suppress the political power of non-whites because that advantages Republicans is racist.
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Not that you have much to show for your statement, as you shuffle backwards off stage in the face of the census question controversy.

Speaking of having nothing to show, you guys have yet to provide actual proof of "racism" being the motivating force behind Republican policy...let alone that it was the foundation for the census question in this thread's context.

Gerrymandering is not an exclusively racist endeavour, for example ...

Meanwhile, let’s look at the conclusion from the study’s author regarding a strategy that Republicans have decided to push right now:

Mr. Hofeller’s exhaustive analysis of Texas state legislative districts concluded that such maps “would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites,” and would dilute the political power of the state’s Hispanics.

The reason, he wrote, was that the maps would exclude traditionally Democratic Hispanics and their children from the population count.


“Non-Hispanic whites”. What a curious term and characterization, used for such unknown reasons, to you. But you’ve shown your cards by proving that you know what’s going on here given your choice of the phrase, “not exclusively racist...”. Not unexpected, I guess, in light of your weekly hair-fire proclamations (without any basis provided) about folks that you say are racist. : )
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canpakes wrote:Meanwhile, let’s look at the conclusion from the study’s author regarding a strategy that Republicans have decided to push right now:

Mr. Hofeller’s exhaustive analysis of Texas state legislative districts concluded that such maps “would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites,” and would dilute the political power of the state’s Hispanics.

The reason, he wrote, was that the maps would exclude traditionally Democratic Hispanics and their children from the population count.
..blah blah blah....

Again, you ignore the facts and cannot (still) support the claim posted.
"Mr. Hofeller’s charge was to assess the impact of drawing political maps that were not based on a state’s total population — the current practice virtually everywhere in the nation — but on a slice of that population: American citizens of voting age"
or as your logic concludes..."racism everywhere".

"The reason, he wrote, was that the maps would exclude traditionally Democratic Hispanics and their children from the population count. That would force Democratic districts to expand to meet the Constitution’s one person, one vote requirement."

Notice how an accurate quote of "the reason" proves not racism but rather proves politics as usual whereas Democrats are being targeted...their skin color being inconsequential due to the often ignored by you context of reality.

But i get ya, without pulling the boogey man of racism out you guys got nothing reasonable to put forth...
Your racism is starting to peek out, better tuck it back in until you need it in 2020.
..maybe put it on a campaign platform poster with OfFred...geez.
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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subgenius wrote:...their skin color being inconsequential ....

Yet, strangely, was mentioned by the study’s author.

Can’t imagine why that would have been necessary, right? : D
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Re: Conservative on Republican Motivations

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Republican Party Stategist A: “Hey, this idea that we have, if implemented, would decrease the influence of Hispanics in elections”.

Republican Party Strategists B, C and D, in unison: “Let’s do it!

subs: “Look at how racist Democrats are!!1!
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