Facebook, freedom and digital decency

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Re: Facebook, freedom and digital decency

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It appears that of late Hannity’s neck is attempting to swallow his head. Almost as if it knows better and is doing what it can to resorb the offending tumor in a last ditch attempt to save itself from having to listen to his continual whining.


The biggest problem for the left is that they haven't been able to find a solid sexual harassment allegation in their effort to get Hannity off the air. I'm sure Hannity gets plenty of death threats from the left. He poses a serious threat to their aspirations of controlling the information available to the public.
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ajax18 wrote:The biggest problem for the left is that they haven't been able to find a solid sexual harassment allegation in their effort to get Hannity off the air.

Yes, he doesn’t appear to be agile enough to be a physical threat to anyone.
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ajax18 wrote:He poses a serious threat to their aspirations of controlling the information available to the public.

I'm curious, what information has Hannity shared that was being suppressed by other news outlets that's proven to be valid and newsworthy?
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Re: Facebook, freedom and digital decency

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honorentheos wrote:
ajax18 wrote:He poses a serious threat to their aspirations of controlling the information available to the public.

I'm curious, what information has Hannity shared that was being suppressed by other news outlets that's proven to be valid and newsworthy?

Remember when he did that story on Obama using Dijon mustard, and led his audience by the hand to their safe place of faux rage and indignation?

Oh, those were such days of crisis and Presidential misbehavior.
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I'm curious if anyone could explain why banning Louis Farrakhan constitutes an attack on conservatives.

This is not an issue of freedom of speech. People are still free to set up a storefront on the internet. Facebook is saying that their company does not have to be the home for everybody. That does not mean that the people who can't live there are homeless. Having to type www.NOTfacebook.com, or whatever, does not deny that person freedom of expression.
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I don't think suppressing speech is the answer. The first amendment free speech clause was about allowing many views to be expressed in the political arena. Publicly traded companies should be required to adhere to this if they seek to take over the public square. Also, more speech that exposes stupid ideas should be the answer, not having a committee decide what we can say. Obviously screeming fire in a crowded theater when there isn't one should be criminalized. However, we should tolerate Louis Farrakan and Alex Jones, no matter how crazy they sound. I think the world can handle their ideas and act in a responsible manner.
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Exiled wrote:I don't think suppressing speech is the answer. The first amendment free speech clause was about allowing many views to be expressed in the political arena. Publicly traded companies should be required to adhere to this if they seek to take over the public square.

It was conservatives who campaigned hard to get rid of FCC's fairness doctrine.

Wikipedia wrote:The Fairness Doctrine has been strongly opposed by prominent conservatives and libertarians who view it as an attack on First Amendment rights and property rights. Editorials in The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times in 2005 and 2008 said that Democratic attempts to bring back the Fairness Doctrine have been made largely in response to conservative talk radio.[48][49]

In 1987, Edward O. Fritts, president of the National Association of Broadcasters, in applauding President Reagan's veto of a bill intended to turn the doctrine into law, said that the doctrine is an infringement on free speech and intrudes on broadcasters' journalistic judgment.[50]

In 2007, Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) proposed an amendment to a defense appropriations bill that forbade the FCC from "using any funds to adopt a fairness rule."[51] It was blocked, in part on grounds that "the amendment belonged in the Commerce Committee's jurisdiction".

In the same year, the Broadcaster Freedom Act of 2007 was proposed in the Senate by Senators Coleman with 35 co-sponsors (S.1748) and John Thune (R-SD) with 8 co-sponsors (S.1742)[52] and in the House by Republican Representative Mike Pence (R-IN) with 208 co-sponsors (H.R. 2905).[53] It provided that:

“ The Commission shall not have the authority to prescribe any rule, regulation, policy, doctrine, standard, or other requirement that has the purpose or effect of reinstating or repromulgating (in whole or in part) the requirement that broadcasters present opposing viewpoints on controversial issues of public importance, commonly referred to as the `Fairness Doctrine', as repealed in General Fairness Doctrine Obligations of Broadcast Licensees, 50 Fed. Reg. 35418 (1985).[54]


Requiring all sides to be presented was considered a violation of freedom of speech by conservatives.
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Re: Facebook, freedom and digital decency

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Exiled wrote:I don't think suppressing speech is the answer. The first amendment free speech clause was about allowing many views to be expressed in the political arena. Publicly traded companies should be required to adhere to this if they seek to take over the public square.

It was conservatives who campaigned hard to get rid of FCC's fairness doctrine.

Wikipedia wrote:The Fairness Doctrine has been strongly opposed by prominent conservatives and libertarians who view it as an attack on First Amendment rights and property rights. Editorials in The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times in 2005 and 2008 said that Democratic attempts to bring back the Fairness Doctrine have been made largely in response to conservative talk radio.[48][49]

In 1987, Edward O. Fritts, president of the National Association of Broadcasters, in applauding President Reagan's veto of a bill intended to turn the doctrine into law, said that the doctrine is an infringement on free speech and intrudes on broadcasters' journalistic judgment.[50]

In 2007, Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) proposed an amendment to a defense appropriations bill that forbade the FCC from "using any funds to adopt a fairness rule."[51] It was blocked, in part on grounds that "the amendment belonged in the Commerce Committee's jurisdiction".

In the same year, the Broadcaster Freedom Act of 2007 was proposed in the Senate by Senators Coleman with 35 co-sponsors (S.1748) and John Thune (R-SD) with 8 co-sponsors (S.1742)[52] and in the House by Republican Representative Mike Pence (R-IN) with 208 co-sponsors (H.R. 2905).[53] It provided that:

“ The Commission shall not have the authority to prescribe any rule, regulation, policy, doctrine, standard, or other requirement that has the purpose or effect of reinstating or repromulgating (in whole or in part) the requirement that broadcasters present opposing viewpoints on controversial issues of public importance, commonly referred to as the `Fairness Doctrine', as repealed in General Fairness Doctrine Obligations of Broadcast Licensees, 50 Fed. Reg. 35418 (1985).[54]


Requiring all sides to be presented was considered a violation of freedom of speech by conservatives.


They were wrong
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