Trump's 5 Big Lies

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Trump's 5 Big Lies

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https://www.Facebook.com/plugins/video. ... &width=560

Pretty impressive no one who voted for him even cares.
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Re: Trump's 5 Big Lies

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I don't even have an interest in bothering, but I'll debunk the first lie in the video.

The irony about the first claim is the video itself debunks the claim that Trump was "lying". Let me clue you in Kevin...

If you have "wall" money, and you're "building" it, then Trump's statement is 100% accurate. Nobody has said in life that whenever you utter something you have to include every single factoid and nuance related to the subject. This is common human speaking... certain things are "implied", but still the statement is ultimately factually correct.

And FYI, we've always known that the "wall" wouldn't necessarily be a "Great Wall of China". Other counties have "walls", and most/parts of them are "fencing", and then sometimes some parts of a hardened barrier. For example, Israel has both a "literal" walls, and different formed "walls" in the form of "fencing". it's ALL WALLS in generic speech!

In conclusion, YOU should be caring more about YOUR "lying"... a.k.a. Bearing False Witness.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I don't even have an interest in bothering, but I'll debunk the first lie in the video.

The irony about the first claim is the video itself debunks the claim that Trump was "lying". Let me clue you in Kevin...

If you have "wall" money, and you're "building" it, then Trump's statement is 100% accurate. Nobody has said in life that whenever you utter something you have to include every single factoid and nuance related to the subject. This is common human speaking... certain things are "implied", but still the statement is ultimately factually correct.

And FYI, we've always known that the "wall" wouldn't necessarily be a "Great Wall of China". Other counties have "walls", and most/parts of them are "fencing", and then sometimes some parts of a hardened barrier. For example, Israel has both a "literal" walls, and different formed "walls" in the form of "fencing". it's ALL WALLS in generic speech!

In conclusion, YOU should be caring more about YOUR "lying"... a.k.a. Bearing False Witness.




He doesn't have "wall money" and he's not "building" it. That's just a fact. Congress gets to appropriate money for specific projects and they haven't done this for a wall.

Trump never spoke in "generic speech" when it came to the wall during his campaign promise fest. He said it would be a big beautiful concrete wall covering the entire border. Later he started backing down from that, but none of this changes the fact that no new walls have been built during his administration. He just made that up to satisfy the minority of idiots like you.
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ldsfaqs wrote:And FYI, we've always known that the "wall" wouldn't necessarily be a "Great Wall of China". Other counties have "walls", and most/parts of them are "fencing", and then sometimes some parts of a hardened barrier. For example, Israel has both a "literal" walls, and different formed "walls" in the form of "fencing". it's ALL WALLS in generic speech!

Cool. Then we can string up 1000 miles of simple chain link fence and move on to things that actually matter. “Wall” completed.

Thanks, faqs.
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Kevin Graham wrote:He doesn't have "wall money" and he's not "building" it. That's just a fact. Congress gets to appropriate money for specific projects and they haven't done this for a wall.

Trump never spoke in "generic speech" when it came to the wall during his campaign promise fest. He said it would be a big beautiful concrete wall covering the entire border. Later he started backing down from that, but none of this changes the fact that no new walls have been built during his administration. He just made that up to satisfy the minority of idiots like you.


If I spend the time to go deeper, I would find even more information, but even a "surface" search reveals this...
I quote...

Under Trump's administration, fewer than 40 miles of new barriers have been erected or are approved, and most of those simply replace old fencing.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 898283002/

By our count, that comes to less than 40 miles of new barrier where there wasn’t any before.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/has-t ... all-begun/

Great briefing this afternoon on the start of our Southern Border WALL!
with pics
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/has-t ... all-begun/


Trump specifically said current wall is being repaired and reinforced and NEW wall has started being built...

The above statements from a simple basic search, even from "non-trustworthy" sources in the view of me and the Right PROVES Trump was telling the truth, and that you and Leftist Media are outright LYING when claiming "he" was lying about there being "Border wall that has started being built".
The articles in question also state money's have been provided for wall building.
Trump has also said a LOT of things about the "Wall" including "Wall" such as Israel etc. which guess what includes guess what a lot of "Fencing".
You cherry picking certain of his statements to try to put him in a box he's not in relation to his statements about the "wall" is not being honest.

Now, do you have the character to correct yourself, and claim yourself as among the "minority of idiots" (your words) in relation to your beliefs about Trump?
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by the way, folks note how Kevin "edited" his post before I posted the above, when he apparently finally decided to actually do some real research and he discovered that "some" of the Wall HAS started being built, in contrast to his original falsehood, and the very first falsehood about Trump in the video he posted in his OP.
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LDSfaqs, good to see you've escaped from the confines of the Spirit Prison. Those steel slats that Shades had constructed cannot hold you!

Here, let me help you out on this takedown of Kevin Graham: If Kevin and those other board liberals hate walls so much, why do they live in houses? The logic is inescapable.

Hope you are in good health. Keep doing those karate exercises. Nothing like good old open closed-fist punching and kicking to dance music.
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I stand firmly by my initial claim that his wall is not constructed and this is true. Trump lied, flat out. I deleted a sentence by accident while editing a typo but I never replaced it with anything that contradicts what I initially said. Trump doesn't have the funding to do any significant wall construction and he's been claiming the wall is being built since well before any of this "refurbishing" of existing fences took place.

The video I posted asserts that Congress approved funding for $1.6 billion for updating existing fencing, not new walls, and this is 100% true. But that doesn't even begin to validate Trump's claims and promise of building a wall across the entire border. From the same article you posted, which you clearly didn't bother to read:

More than a year ago, Trump and the Department of Homeland security began labeling all border barriers as "walls," even though they are the same fences he belittled during his campaign...

Today, as the president pushes Congress to finance funding for his most symbolic and concrete campaign vision, it is undecided whether a border wall already is under construction, whether the "big, beautiful wall" will ever get built — or whether, under the new definition, it already has been...

New border barriers built under the Trump administration amount to a few miles of fencing.

On the campaign trail, supporters regaled Trump with a slogan, "Build the wall!"

Even after taking office, he was clear that the border wall would be new and different from other fences, saying "We’re going to have a wall that works. We’re not going to have a wall like they have now, which is either nonexistent or a joke."

Since then, administration officials seemingly revised that plan. In April, Homeland Security Director Kirstjen Nielsen announced that new barriers would be considered walls, even if those fences are being built to replace existing fences.

Most fencing along the border consists of tall steel posts, known as "bollards." For decades, Border Patrol agents have talked about "bollard fences." Now, their agency calls them "bollard walls."

Under Trump's administration, fewer than 40 miles of new barriers have been erected or are approved, and most of those simply replace old fencing.
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Kevin...
Honestly you Leftists make me very sad, it's just so tragically sad.

You AND your video SPECIFICALLY said that "no wall has been built" when Trump said "wall HAS already been started being built".
I have provided you with "3" direct quotes from your mostly Leftist sources even which specifically state NEW WALL HAS BEEN BUILT.

How you can "stand by your claim" (and the videos 1st claim of a Trump lie, which is what we are addressing here, which as I've now proven is NOT a lie) is utterly astounding to me and just so tragically sad as to how deep not seeing and accepting actual truth and fact goes with a Leftist.

See you next time... :(

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Moksha, I'm not "back" from Prison, I always could post elsewhere on the forum, but my posts have to be approved, and they sometimes aren't even when I don't say anything against the rules, so I just don't usually bother, plus I like to see and edit my posts after posting in case I need to correct anything, which I just can't do properly if every post has to be approved.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Kevin...
Honestly you Leftists make me very sad, it's just so tragically sad.

You AND your video SPECIFICALLY said that "no wall has been built" when Trump said "wall HAS already been started being built".
I have provided you with "3" direct quotes from your mostly Leftist sources even which specifically state NEW WALL HAS BEEN BUILT.

How you can "stand by your claim" (and the videos 1st claim of a Trump lie, which is what we are addressing here, which as I've now proven is NOT a lie) is utterly astounding to me and just so tragically sad as to how deep not seeing and accepting actual truth and fact goes with a Leftist.

See you next time... :(

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Moksha, I'm not "back" from Prison, I always could post elsewhere on the forum, but my posts have to be approved, and they sometimes aren't even when I don't say anything against the rules, so I just don't usually bother, plus I like to see and edit my posts after posting in case I need to correct anything, which I just can't do properly if every post has to be approved.


Hey, FAQS, better change your name. You aren't LDS. You have to be ChurchofJesusChristofLatterDaySaintsFAQS. You godless heathen. :lol:

I love how your vocabulary is improving but, sadly, you are deeper in ignorance than ever. Your choice. Enjoy! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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