It's Officially Time To Stop The Holy War

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BYU and the church should have a little humility and ditch the independent nonsense they pursued when Utah and Colorado were picked over them to join the Pac-12. Independence hasn't been worth it in November when games count and I don't see Notre Dame playing them in November any time soon. Go back to the Mountain West and become the best non-P5 football team. Rivalries with Boise State and Utah State will make November relevant again for BYU and will help recruiting.
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Exiled wrote:BYU and the church should have a little humility and ditch the independent nonsense they pursued when Utah and Colorado were picked over them to join the Pac-12..


BYU, Utah, TCU, USU, Boise, Fresno, Nevada...that would have been a pretty fun conference to follow.
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Sanctorian wrote:Utes don’t want/need this game either. As soon as the current deal is up, this game is no more.

When the UofU basketball team tried this, the Utah Legislature threatened the funding of the entire University of Utah.

You might say that the Utah Legislature was being true to its Church.
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It's amazing what Urban Meyer did to make Utah good in football. As an outsider to Utah football (I am from the east and could care less about any Utah schools), I found it amazing that a state with so few D1 football players was able to build such a successful program. If Kyle leaves, Utah could easily slip to Arizona levels and the rivalry between BYU and Utah becomes more even again. I was recently in Utah and shocked that some Utah fans wanted Kyle to leave. I am thinking, these people have a short memory and very little idea about the limited backyard of Utah and the limited offerings that Utah has for recruits. Kyle is doing an amazing job with so little.
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moksha wrote:When the UofU basketball team tried this, the Utah Legislature threatened the funding of the entire University of Utah.

You might say that the Utah Legislature was being true to its Church.


I think the Utah legislature was on to something. One might call it the "Make the Church True Again" campaign. Back when BYU football was a top program in the 80's, the Church was growing like gangbusters and truer than ever. Growth statistics were proudly displayed and BYU football was kicking butt, along with Ainge and the basketball team. Who wouldn't want to join the popular up and comer? Baptisms and team success were certainly tied together.

Now, growth has stagnated, popularity is lackluster, and the football and basketball teams are mediocre. Appeals to popularity by the dodo and Cooke aren't hitting the mark. So, football and basketball must become great again and big brother certainly must continue to play with dorky overly religious little brother while little brother tries to grab some past glory. Winning in sports, especially football, will greatly aid in the "Make the Church True Again," campaign and the legislature will be damned if Utah doesn't play its part in this quest.
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BYU's losing streak to the U is now old enough to be baptized...
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Resurrect LaVell Edwards.

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I was in the room as my very-conservative Father-in-Law and his friends watched the game. After it was over, I told them I hadn't seen the mood shift so fast in a room since the Hillary supporters watching the returns in 2016.
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What? BYU has a football team? :surprised:
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oliblish wrote:BYU's losing streak to the U is now old enough to be baptized...

.....8 years unless you are the child of a gay parent.


Yes, I saw that on a homemade poster during the game. I guess you found it as funny as I did. :lol: :biggrin:
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