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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:45 am 
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If the result is that the baby is fed on good quality baby formula, correctly and hygienically prepared, not much is lost, although breast milk gives the child some things that cannot be bought in a tin.

But if the result is that a poor woman trying to do her best for her baby ends up buying cheap and perhaps adulterated products, which she has not got the facilities to prepare hygienically, and of which she cannot afford to buy enough to nourish her child adequately, the result is a malnourished or even sick child who would have been much better off breastfed.

Well put. Additionally - and barely mentioned in this conversation - there is an immunological benefit to newborns from breast milk. There are also some health benefits to the mother, including that breastfeeding essentially acts to prevent another immediate pregnancy, which is a consideration for poor individuals in undeveloped countries with limited resources.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:52 am 
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As Spanish speaker I can attest to the consumer wealth pouring into the country from south of the border. Speaking spanish doubles and triples your pay grade.

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Water Dog wrote:
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You’re just angry because you weren’t breast fed. : )


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:48 pm 
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canpakes wrote:
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... breast milk gives the child some things that cannot be bought in a tin.

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... there is an immunological benefit to newborns from breast milk. There are also some health benefits to the mother, including that breastfeeding essentially acts to prevent another immediate pregnancy, which is a consideration for poor individuals in undeveloped countries with limited resources.


Yup. You have spelled out what I had in mind - thanks!

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Yup. You have spelled out what I had in mind - thanks!

Also, breastfeeding is ridiculously more convenient. No hauling around or cleaning separate bottles. No purchase required of same. Mom is always prepared for the baby’s needs.

This is a huge asset for folks in less-developed nations. Breastfeeding also contributes to less water use and wastewater generation (by not washing and sterilizing formula bottles) and less chance of infecting the baby from improperly cleaned bottles and nipples.

But, apparently none of that ‘good for the baby and the mother’ stuff is important in the face of some giant formula company otherwise being able to capture a few more dollars of profit.


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canpakes wrote:
Water Dog wrote:
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You’re just angry because you weren’t breast fed. : )

Except I was breast fed... as have been all of my children.


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While I wasn't breast fed as a baby, I do partake as an adult and I can't recommend it highly enough.





(Kidding Chap.......No need for you to swoop in and defend the women of the world against sexist Ceeboo)


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While I wasn't breast fed as a baby, I do partake as an adult and I can't recommend it highly enough.

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No need for you to swoop in and defend the women of the world against sexist Ceeboo


I don't think any of the women I know will be worried about any threat you might pose.

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No need for you to swoop in and defend the women of the world against sexist Ceeboo


I don't think any of the women I know will be worried about any threat you might pose.


Neither of them? :smile:


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Gosh, I haven't heard such repartee since I was ten or eleven ...

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Chap wrote:
Gosh, I haven't heard such repartee since I was ten or eleven ...


So it's been almost 2 years then? :smile:


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Gosh, I haven't heard such repartee since I was ten or eleven ...


So it's been almost 2 years then? :smile:


That's almost funny!

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But now back to the OP?

Perhaps subgenius would like to expand on the serious points that he was making ... just to raise the tone a notch or two ...

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But now back to the OP?

Perhaps subgenius would like to expand on the serious points that he was making ... just to raise the tone a notch or two ...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:42 pm 
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canpakes wrote:
Also, breastfeeding is ridiculously more convenient...

:rolleyes: Not for the source.


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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/health/world-health-breastfeeding-ecuador-trump.html

How crazy. My wife breastfed all our girls and the benefits were great. It gets the woman's body back together and gets her interested in sex again. How much more cray policy are the Americans going to come out with?


Your comments regarding the great benefits of breastfeeding sent me into a fit of laughter because they are so brazenly and honestly male.

In other words, I sort of loved it.

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Water Dog wrote:
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You’re just angry because you weren’t breast fed. : )

Except I was breast fed... as have been all of my children.

You’re too serious, Water Dog. :smile:


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Lemmie wrote:
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Also, breastfeeding is ridiculously more convenient...

:rolleyes: Not for the source.

That depends on the attitude of the source and where you might be at the time, granted, but was much more so than the alternative for us. YMMV. : )


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:35 pm 
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Lemmie wrote:
canpakes wrote:
Also, breastfeeding is ridiculously more convenient...

:rolleyes: Not for the source.

canpakes wrote:
That depends on the attitude of the source and where you might be at the time, granted, but was much more so than the alternative for us. YMMV. : )

The "ATTITUDE" of the source? No, your facts as they relate to the female anatomy and the physical act of breastfeeding are incorrect. Convenience in breastfeeding does not depend upon "the attitude of the source."
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I'm glad you perceived a good attitude in your source, but its correlation to a convenient breastfeed is just that, a correlation. A good attitude does not make breastfeeding "more convenient," except maybe for the person who is happy that his source is feeding his output in such a way that is so ridiculously convenient for him. :lol:


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