Idiot Trump: Canada Burned Washington

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Re: Idiot Trump: Canada Burned Washington

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Jersey Girl wrote:Glory days? Comfortable life? Not adaptable to a changing world?

The onset of nuclear weapons?
Duck and cover school drills?
Cuban missle crisis?
Tonkin Bay resolution?
Vietnam War?
Civil rights movement?
Feminist movement?
Space program?
Development of technology?

The baby boomers facilitated world change like every other generation has and every generation builds itself up on the backs of the last.

Just my opinion, Jersey Girl, but I see Doc's point being more about how the world outside of the US has changed, beyond the internal challenges of your listed items and the straightforward bogeyman of Communism. Much of the above could always be adequately managed by Boomers as they were able to maintain the ability to put their own stamp on the outcome, being the dominant demographic within this country.

Doc factors in the 'expanded universe' of reality outside of our own borders that began to arise in the 80's, coupled with the effect of increased immigration from that extra-domestic realm, resulting in a certain loss of control perceived by Boomers, What followed was much blame heaped upon outgroups and foreigners as the supposed reason as to why the old ways no longer guaranteed that Boomers would automatically be granted and maintain the sweet success of the good ol' American Dream, complete with the status, 'respect' and a standard of living that bested every other country, afforded from being the only real intact economy to survive WWII... a temporary benefit, but one that strongly shaped the psyche of the Boomer generation as if it had always been - and always was to be - the only believable world reality.
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Themis wrote:The difference is they will target Republicans riding's and products that their own people can get somewhere else without having to pay more or much more then they do now. Aluminium tariffs only make Americans pay more for aluminum. The US is not going to be increasing Aluminium production and will still need to import from Countries like Canada.

Should we be considering tariffs on maple syrup, Moosehead Beer, and Yukon Jack? At least we should consider sanctions on their prairie oysters.
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moksha wrote:
Themis wrote:The difference is they will target Republicans riding's and products that their own people can get somewhere else without having to pay more or much more then they do now. Aluminium tariffs only make Americans pay more for aluminum. The US is not going to be increasing Aluminium production and will still need to import from Countries like Canada.

Should we be considering tariffs on maple syrup, Moosehead Beer, and Yukon Jack? At least we should consider sanctions on their prairie oysters.


That's the danger of an all out trade war. All countries are putting up tariffs dollar for dollar on the US tariffs. If The idiot Trump decides to add more tariffs because of it you have an escalating trade war which will probably result in recession. Trump may not be an idiot though. He is probably just doing what his masters in Russia want him to do. :eek:
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He is probably just doing what his masters in Russia want him to do.
I agree. It is becoming ever harder to dismiss that probability.
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Themis wrote:That's the danger of an all out trade war. All countries are putting up tariffs dollar for dollar on the US tariffs. If The idiot Trump decides to add more tariffs because of it you have an escalating trade war which will probably result in recession. Trump may not be an idiot though. He is probably just doing what his masters in Russia want him to do. :eek:


Did you catch his latest? He's accusing India (!) of imposing 100% tariffs and is threatening to suspend trade.

Gegh....

I'm just flummoxed by his base and this obsession with manufacturing. That is to say, there are voters, supposedly of sound mind, who believe what organically led to our service economy isn't real, but a deliberate attempt by Democrats to disempower our global hegemony. To towns andcities that use to be defined by the manufacturing sector (before it slowly got phased out) Trump's bluster is a promise of "hope."

They saw their youth atrophy and the main street shrink more and more until its become what I've witnessed on this hike of mine.

Towns are straight up dead.

It was a slow process. Most of them worked their whole life and didn't realize what was happening until they reached retirement. For many, it literally felt like they retired to a different country. Day laborers (Mexicans and Indians out here) began filling their towns while the native population continues to shrink.

Call it bigotry, but I can sympathize with individuals who "woke up one day" and realized more Spanish speakers were coming into their town than there were "real American's." The millionaires & billionaires that made the news were no longer captains of industry, but Steve Jobsian vegans who made devices, apps, Ubers, and tech they could barely afford, and all they can think is wait a minute, "I thought I was Middle Class, where did my spending power go?"

All the while metroplexes are growing and concentrating more wealth, and the visibility of prosperity are found in those "Liberal" cities while another store closes on Main street and then your own son moves 5 states away because the town doesn't have manufacturing jobs anymore.

So, this is where the vitriol Ajax and his ilk comes from. This is the jealousy, the racism, the confusion etc... This is how the "Liberal" became a thought-terminating cliché and how "Liberal tears" became a thing. These people don't care if the US economy is a service economy, and they don't care if the US economy tanks in the process (not that they think it will). To Trump's base the only thing that matters is taking the economy "back" from the "Liberals" who deliberately tanked it so they could achieve a Socialist utopia.

in my opinion, they are entitled children whose world changed on them, they didn't give a crap about upcoming generations, and are attempting to thrust us back into a paradigm that just isn't going to happen.

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Re: Idiot Trump: Canada Burned Washington

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Drumpf's trade war is a matter of national security, as long as you count America's diminishing economic security as a result of Drumpf's trade war.

It would seem Drumpf understands the word "winning" about as well as he understands "fake."

I've come to the conclusion that Drumpf doesn't lie as much as I originally thought. He's just wrong most of the time. Because, ya know... he's a moron.
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