The Shumer Shutdown - and where were these guys in 2013!

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Re: The Shumer Shutdown - and where were these guys in 2013!

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Bach wrote:
EAllusion wrote:What's preventing Republicans from passing a bill solely aimed at continuing funding for CHIP Bach?


1) Democrats. Their protection is in the CR presented to both parties. The same CR that liberals voted down last night (please just read!!!). Democrats are using the rights and benefits these 9 million legal children as hostages for the non existing rights of 600,000 illegal immigrants.

2) I don’t have your message board time to educate you on your lack of knowledge, nor your job creating experience, on why our US Govt can’t pass bills on single budgetary issues without passing a budget.

If you spent a fraction of your life from beyond a computer screen 24/7, you may begin to understand and appreciate the real life issues you spend pontificating on, and perhaps get some color in your otherwise pale skin!!!


So, if a party holds two pieces of legislation hostage in the budget negotiations and demands the other party pick one, the other party bears sole responsibility for not picking one. Is that correct? That's how this works?

Ok, then if Republican politicians are legitimately pro-life, then why don't they threaten to kill Social Security unless planned parenthood is 100% defunded by law? It would be the Democrats fault for killing social security if they didn't go along correct?

Conclusion via Bach - The Republican party is pro-abortion.

P.S. You can get a clean bill both on DACA and CHIP. CHIP could've been renewed months ago and it was a surprise when it wasn't. Beyond that, there are the votes necessary for a bipartisan compromise, but Republican leadership is enforcing parliamentary solidarity over bipartisan splitting as a strategic move because the Trump admin has signaled it would veto to protect a hardline stance on immigration.
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Re: The Shumer Shutdown - and where were these guys in 2013!

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subgenius wrote:says the guy who did not listen to the linked video
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It looked like one of those fake news places.
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Re: The Shumer Shutdown - and where were these guys in 2013!

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EAllusion wrote:P.S. You can get a clean bill both on DACA and CHIP. CHIP could've been renewed months ago and it was a surprise when it wasn't. Beyond that, there are the votes necessary for a bipartisan compromise, but Republican leadership is enforcing parliamentary solidarity over bipartisan splitting as a strategic move because the Trump admin has signaled it would veto to protect a hardline stance on immigration.


So in other words, bach is a poser who again, doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
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Re: The Shumer Shutdown - and where were these guys in 2013!

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GOP strategist: Shutdown is on Trump and GOP

Republican strategist John Weaver said Saturday that blame for the government shutdown falls on President Trump and the GOP.

“Trump created the [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program] crisis. The congressional wing of the GOP refused to fund CHIP. Trump & GOP ignored the pleas of the Pentagon for a fully funded budget. All of this is on them,” Weaver said.

John Weaver
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Trump created the DACA crisis. The congressional wing of the GOP refused to fund CHIP. Trump & GOP ignored the pleas of the Pentagon for a fully funded budget. All of this is on them.
7:58 AM - Jan 20, 2018


The strategist, who previously worked for Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) and Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign, has often been critical of Trump.
The government shut down at midnight on Friday after the Senate failed to pass a continuing resolution to fund it. Democrats and Republicans are scrambling to place blame on the other side for the failure.

Trump and Republicans have blamed Democrats for the shutdown. But Democrats fired back, saying it was the GOP’s fault for refusing to attach a measure extending protections for recipients of the DACA program to the bill.

The hashtag #TrumpShutdown was the top trending topic worldwide Friday night.

Trump blamed Democrats for the government shutdown in a series of tweets Saturday morning.

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Fox News host Shep Smith on the shutdown news: Trump and Republicans can't blame Democrats

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) blames shutdown on Trump listening to Tom Cotton, Stephen Miller
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