A federal grand jury has approved

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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... feds-say/#

The level of incompetence is just stunning.
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EAllusion wrote:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/paul-manafort-just-tried-to-secretly-collaborate-with-a-colleague-linked-to-russian-intelligence-feds-say/#

The level of incompetence is just stunning.


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Lest anyone is actually influenced by Subgenius's incredibly uninformed opinion it's worth your time to read this article:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-secu ... s-upstream

Start at page 41 if you're interested in the NSA's tactic:

https://www.pclob.gov/library/702-Report.pdf#page=41

I hate that I have to get into it with someone like Subgenius, but I suppose if their endless ignorant claims, true Fake News, doesn't get rebutted it becomes 'Fake Truth' that their ilk accepts unquestioningly and we're left with people like Trump getting elected.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Lest anyone is actually influenced by Subgenius's incredibly uninformed opinion it's worth your time to read this article:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-secu ... s-upstream

Start at page 41 if you're interested in the NSA's tactic:

https://www.pclob.gov/library/702-Report.pdf#page=41

I hate that I have to get into it with someone like Subgenius, but I suppose if their endless ignorant claims, true Fake News, doesn't get rebutted it becomes 'Fake Truth' that their ilk accepts unquestioningly and we're left with people like Trump getting elected.

- Doc

Thanks for the links and for how the blatantly highlight the hyperbole in your claim. The NSA "downloading" some/selected/targeted upstream traffic is a far cry from the poster's moronic self-aggrandizing claim of "The NSA copies the entire internet everyday"......but I digress, you were telling us how you can't tell us about your super secret insider knowledge.
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I am not DrC's best buddy, as my records of posting on this forum show.

But I have to say that, on balance, it seems clear to me that DrC's accounts of official US security procedures are likely to be a great deal more reliable and reality-based than anything that subgenius has to say on such topics.

Of course, we could all be a bunch of inmates posting on the intranet of an expensive asylum for deranged serial killers, under the illusion that we are in contact with an 'outside world'. When I can get this lock pick to work, I intend to come and have serious discussions with some of you.
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This literally underscores what it's like to engage Subgenius. The time it took between my post and his his response illustrates, once again, that he doesn't really read anything. The best you get from him, a la MG, is a quick scan and then he farts out another post. I can guarantee you he didn't read this:

https://www.pclob.gov/library/702-Report.pdf#page=41

Also, what does he expect? If I lay out the specifics of their collection program, the names, their capabilities, their capacities, the infrastructure, their missions, their targets, then yeah, of course, I'm literally divulging SCI and SAPs. Wtf does this dotard want me to do? The best you're going to get is open source information and some vague assertions. Jesus. I thought Conservotards were all about maintaining national security? Guess not.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Bach wrote:Folks, this will be the biggest “nothing burger” of all time as it relates to those who wanted Hillary Elected! Rachel Maddow may try and use it in an attempt to redeem her election night embarrassment but this will be the yawn of the century when all said and done.


I said it then and I’ll say it now:

The only collusion we will see will be between Obama’s FBI lackeys and Hillary Clinton!!!

Oh it’s a coming baby!! They’re dropping like flies to run as we speak in their last ditch effort to get out of the limelight as Lois Lerner did.

Baby it’s a coming!

KG, EA, ...... any disagreement?
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