Lemmie wrote:Prevention strategies aren't practical?
....This is common sense.
Wow. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a hellscape, but it does sound like a warzone.
What sounds like a war zone?
In my view, a war zone is Harvey Weinstein (Cosby, whomever) alone in a room and behind closed doors with a female starlet. That's where the abuse and what the conditions were when these alleged incidents involving Weinstein took place.
I work in the heart of Manhattan where prevention is the watchword of the day, but I have never heard of such extreme measures. My workday would grind to an absolute standstill if I had to never be alone in a room with another adult.
I didn't say that you or anyone else should never be alone in a room with another adult. I addressed job interviews in work environments (all over the US and Germany) that were designed to provide both privacy and transparency.
How is that extreme?
In the last week, I have met one on one with at least five students, both male and female, door closed at their request because they wanted our conversation to be private; I have had private, one on one conversations with our (male) faculty director in a closed-door conference room, with two (male) colleagues in their closed-door offices, and with the (female) office manager in her office. I asked for computer help with the presentation software in our classrooms and met alone with a computer tech (male) in an empty, closed-door classroom for an extended period of time. I have daily, multiple times, gotten on an elevator for a 13 floor ride with only one other person, sometimes male, sometimes female. I have twice carpooled alone in a car for a 1.5 hour commute with one other (male) person, I ate a late lunch in an empty, closed door cafeteria twice with only one other (male) person in the room, I did some reading in my favorite secluded, closed door, windowless reading room in the Law Library where, to my annoyance, one (male) person joined me for about an hour. At least he didn't talk. And the carpool was with my husband, but still....
Are any of those office or classroom environments observable by passers by? Would you object if they were and why?
I agree with the concept of prevention and awareness but I certainly wouldn't feel empowered by such a situation. I cannot fathom trying to function in my university setting if such stringent rules were in place as you describe.
Observable environments and team interviews in the work place are stringent?
There has got to be a reasonable balance without infantilizing women to such an extent.
Why the sole focus on women? Men are likewise subjected to abuse in the work place. Both male and females are subjected to false allegations. I don't see this as infantilizing women. I see this as adults functioning in sensible ways in an attempt to prevent misconduct.
What do you suggest in terms of reasonable measures and/or prevention strategies that might prevent misconduct in the work place?