My heart is breaking

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When he started claiming that the KKK, NAZIS, and Alt-Right had good people in them. Yes we can consider him an anti-Semite. Plus in 1991 he said this: According to a book written by former Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino president John R. O’Donnell, the real estate mogul once said in 1991 that “Laziness is a trait in blacks.” He was allegedly referring to a black accountant working for Trump Plaza, and added, ““Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” The kicker is that Trump, in a 1999 Playboy magazine interview, did not even deny saying those things. He admitted O’Donnell’s allegations were “probably true,” but insisted it didn’t matter because he was obviously a disgruntled employee.
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The CCC wrote:When he started claiming that the KKK, NAZIS, and Alt-Right had good people in them. Yes we can consider him an anti-Semite.


How would you square that statement since, you know, Kushner, his daughter, and around a dozen other Jews work for him and were essentially hand-picked?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
The CCC wrote:When he started claiming that the KKK, NAZIS, and Alt-Right had good people in them. Yes we can consider him an anti-Semite.


How would you square that statement since, you know, Kushner, his daughter, and around a dozen other Jews work for him and were essentially hand-picked?

- Doc


Drumpf is more than willing to throw his own family under the bus if it gained him political support of NAZIS, the KKK, and the Ult-Right.
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The CCC wrote:Drumpf is more than willing to throw his own family under the bus if it gained him political support of NAZIS, the KKK, and the Ult-Right.


How did he throw his family under the bus?

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There are good people in the NAZI, KKK, and Ult-Right movements.
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The CCC wrote:There are good people in the NAZI, KKK, and Ult-Right movements.


Just locking in proof you're a racist Jew hater

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
beastie wrote:My heart is breaking for my country. My heart is breaking for African Americans and Jewish people.


Wait. You don't seriously think Trump is an antisemite, do you?

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My heart wasn't just breaking because of Trump's horrid comments. It was also breaking at the sight of the Nazis with torches marching down the streets of a town I know and love, chanting "blood and soil", and "Jews won't replace us". It was also breaking when I heard that local Jewish people in a synagogue were sneaking out the back in groups for safety because of the armed thugs standing threateningly across the street from the front door. It's just unbelievable that this still happens in our country when there are still people alive who fought the nazis and freed Jews from concentration camps. My heart is breaking that there are still enough people who embrace this ideology of hate right in the area where I live to result in such a march.

I don't know if Trump is anti-semite. It would be odd for him to be so due to his family relations and his close relationship with Jared. I think his comments were mainly a reflection of his racism.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
The CCC wrote:There are good people in the NAZI, KKK, and Ult-Right movements.


Just locking in proof you're a racist Jew hater

- Doc


I really object to this compulsion you have to needle CCC.

Is it really so unfathomable to you that someone could easily perceive Trump's willingness to give emotional aide and support to Nazis might feel like he's throwing the Jewish members of his family under the bus? Do you imagine that Jared and Ivanka were comforted by his words?

(just a reminder, doc viewtopic.php?p=1021478#p1021478 )
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beastie wrote:Is it really so unfathomable to you that someone could easily perceive Trump's willingness to give emotional aide and support to Nazis might feel like he's throwing the Jewish members of his family under the bus? Do you imagine that Jared and Ivanka were comforted by his words?


I don't know. Jared Kushner has avowed on multiple times that he believes his FIL to be very friendly toward Jews. I think Trump saw a bunch of armed and masked types show up to a Nazi rally, which I actually believe he doesn't support ideologically, and came to the conclusion that there are nutjobs on both sides.

And, just to put it on record, I think Trump should've strongly and unquestionably disavowed any ideology that supports supremacism, white or otherwise.

AFA CCC is concerned, he's like DCP. He has the energy to post multiple times a day, but can't be bothered to flesh out any ideas. Perhaps a little more effort on fewer posts could help someone understand his nuance. He is, after all, a believer and tithe-paying member of a Church with a strong historical track record in White supremacism and racism. So his words ring hollow to me.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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