Otto Warmbier got exactly what he deserved

[_Dr. Shades]

That White people can act stupidly without consequence.

Oh, I'd say getting beaten into a coma counts pretty strongly as a "consequence."

[_subgenius]

Or, to use a religious example, if you live in America there's a good chance that you can get off of work for Christmas because many businesses close for it. It is a national holiday. That's a nice bonus for Christians who would like the day off to celebrate what for them is a religious holiday. Meanwhile, if you are a Muslim, jobs don't typically shut down for Eid. So vacation time has to be used for that if the person has it. That's Christian privilege that exists by virtue of their historical dominance and majority status.

Some people get so offended at the idea that they are privileged in any way. But this is such a clear-cut example of having a privileged status. When people who reject the notion of "privilege" are exposed to it, in my experience they usually just try to defend why the privilege should exist. But that doesn't change that it is a nice like societal perk to have.

are you suggesting that Muslim countries allow workers to be off for Christian holidays? or that national holidays in Muslim countries coincide with Christian holidays?

And are you suggesting some sort of moral value with the existence of these privileges? Should privilege(s) exist in this context or not? It seems that you are being critical of how a community/society structures its priorities....you're kinda coming across as a wannabe tyrant where you are the sole determiner for what should be and should not be.

[_subgenius]

this thread reminds me of the British citizen (female) that got arrested in Dubai when she reported herself being raped - being ignorant of the jurisdictional boundaries for your privilege is not something to be admired.

[_huckelberry]

Does anybody have a more current understanding of the academic world to clarify this picture. I am surprised to hear of large protests over a speaker. Puzzled , are students short of actual protest points? Is the idea of free speech being forgotten or is it small groups of people who are unconcerned about it?

I know back in the 90's and early 00's White Privilege became a thing in college and universities. I think on-campus Liberalism has become a toxic mish mash of radical feminism*, social Marxism (social justice), and pretty much any fringe 'marginalized' group. They're nuts and have infiltrated virtually every facet of university life.

I suppose the question is: What can be done to counter the insanity that is incubated on campus?

Well. I don't know. It's concerning because they're willing to throw away our rights and trample on our Constitution to get their way. Basically they're the Alt-Left and it's a problem.

- Doc

* For example, I just read an article where Feminists (I would suppose RadFems) are urging White women to abort their babies to, I don't know, balance things out. Whatever that means.

I was glad Eallusion pointed out that students and University were willing to state there disavowal of the comments. Though disavowing them is pretty straightforward. Also as EAllusion pointed out make a vague suggestive connection between the victims poor choice and white privilege is not difficult. It is very strange to make the sort of emotional conclusion about deserving which this professor expressed. It would appear to result from an emotion disturbance in the speaker. I am inclined to prefer the phrase emotional derangement.

I would assume that there are sjw type people who may share the ideological background who do not share this particular emotional setup. Perhaps she is not alone however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1P_1mL ... eqglQCe6VZ

link to an excellent defense of freedom of speech , if a person is willing to endure the first portion in opposition to that speech.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

emotional derangement.

Welp. I'm stealing that. Emotionally deranged.

I would assume that there are sjw type people who may share the ideological background who do not share this particular emotional setup. Perhaps she is not alone however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1P_1mL ... eqglQCe6VZ

link to an excellent defense of freedom of speech , if a person is willing to endure the first portion in opposition to that speech.

The concerning thing is that people, young people, who are safely ensconced in a society that affords them the right to state their opinions are willingly looking to authority figures to aid and abet their authoritarianism onto others. The school where this is filmed, and by extension the government (Canada has really gone off the rails with their Hillary Clinton insanity), encourages their tactics and won't ensure contrarian views are expressed and debated. They don't mind if 'unsafe' speech (how “F” ing Orwellian have things become these days?) is suppressed and, frankly, oppressed.

These people don't realize how quickly institutional power can be turned on them, and they're making a huge mistake to entrust morality to other human beings. Iran is a good object lesson for Western Socialists.

ETA a TLDR- The social aspects of Leftism and the institutionalization of PC culture is weaponizing our system for those who have no moral compunction to use it for their own purposes. No thanks.

- Doc

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Cam!

The concerning thing is that people, young people, who are safely ensconced in a society that affords them the right to state their opinions are willingly looking to authority figures to aid and abet their authoritarianism onto others. The school where this is filmed, and by extension the government (Canada has really gone off the rails with their Hillary Clinton insanity), encourages their tactics and won't ensure contrarian views are expressed and debated. They don't mind if 'unsafe' speech (how ____ ing Orwellian have things become these days?) is suppressed and, frankly, oppressed.

These people don't realize how quickly institutional power can be turned on them, and they're making a huge mistake to entrust morality to other human beings. Iran is a good object lesson for Western Socialists.

Bingo!

ETA a TLDR- The social aspects of Leftism and the institutionalization of PC culture is weaponizing our system for those who have no moral compunction to use it for their own purposes. No thanks.

- Doc

Bingo again!

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Welp. It looks like the bloviating bovine is out of a job:

http://time.com/4833445/katherine-dettw ... aware-job/

http://www.udel.edu/udaily/2017/june/statement-issued/

- Doc