Let me explain myself here, since Shades has kindly weighed in on the current (and ongoing) dickishness of MentalDickNasty and my reaction to it.
I was actually told to "chill" by MentalDickNasty because I mocked him. This was absolutely hilarious to me, and it just goes to show you that DickNasty has no idea about who I am or why I do what I do or say what I say.
Yup, I did mock him. What I did, was take his words and "translate" them into something totally silly and senseless that anyone with a lick of common sense would know was pure mocking PARODY (look it up Nasty). I'm sure he's never seen a live comedian and how they operate, but that's how it's done, language and all.
Of course MDicknNasty couldn't take it (and knowing him as well as anyone can get to know an anonymous troll), I followed him around and kept it up after he made a comment on any thread, not just the one of mine that he purposefully trolled. I knew it would set him off, but then, he knew that it would aggravate me when he trolled my thread.
You see folks, the Book of Mormon is his sweet spot, as it is with most Apologists of his ilk. They can't stand any criticism of it. It's their tool to getting new members and trying to keep people in the church. These Apologists get livid when they read any kind of criticism of their tool. Of course, in my thread, the Book of Mormon was really the last thing on my mind when I was quoting the stories about Joseph's activities during that time period. What was on my mind was Joseph Smith. It all comes down to that. It's a connection that Apologists loathe, because they want the Book of Mormon to be something separate and apart from Smith (even though that doesn't make a lick of sense). It doesn't matter, (they claim) if Jo was involved in the occult (Richard Bushman's word for it) before he "translated" his Book. Bushman actually characterizes what Smith was doing (the scrying, etc), as some sort of preparatory work that got him into a mindset where he could accept communication from what they claim is God. It is beyond silly, but there you have it. Their God prepared "spectacles" for Smith, yet he discards them (so they say) and uses the same peepstone that he looked for buried treasure with. And this was all part of God's plan. The story is a whopper and makes no sense. It only makes sense if Jo made up the "spectacles" (which he did), but then he was caught on the horns of a dilemma, he could not let them be seen because they were fake. So he used his magic rock. Martin Harris was an early scribe of Smith's and Jo had the curtain up. Why? He didn't do it later with the rock, because he actually had the rock and had discarded his fake set of "spectacles". But according to these Apologists Jo was doing all this with the "gift and power of God" which is poppycock. These Apologists know how ridiculous these stories are and that they make no sense, so they have to somehow separate Jo from it, and push forth the ridiculous idea that the Book of Mormon somehow stands on its own apart from Smith. But it doesn't. But I digress...
Anyone bringing up Smith's activities in connection with the Book of Mormon is perceived as a threat to these Apologists and hence they will try to divert people away from them in any way they can. It is usually by using ad hominem, because they can't use any evidence, it only makes their case all the worse. I know this, I've experienced this, and so wasn't surprised when DickNasty showed up right away to troll my thread. And he went right to it, posting testimonials that had nothing to do with the subject and then attacked me:
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You can wear out your life trying to disprove the BofM...which apparently you are well on your way to doing. In my opinion there will always continue to be evidence/counter evidence. You are playing out your part/purpose in the scheme of things.
This is DickNasty's M.O. and it aggravates me. I admit it. I have been trolled by this asshole constantly now for years. The same thing. No analysis of the evidence, or productive conversation, just ad hominem attacks about my integrity, my motives and even mocking how I look. He's done it all. Like I said, I'm sick of it and so I decided to give him a taste of his own medicine.
Ya got to know (for those who even care) that I've been through a lot recently. My Mom just died, and I just had a bout with cancer that I licked. DickNasty seems to be able to read my mind, because he claims to know exactly why I'm interested in Mormon History and to him, it's all bad. I'm Satan, the Opposition. What I do is "necessary" he says. Of course, he is out to lunch, but I'm at a point in my life where it bothers me to have my motives questioned by anonymous trolls that have no inkling about Mormon History. But counter attacking someone who constantly badgers me like this is supposed to be beneath me as Shades put it:
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But for our purposes today, yeah, I really wish that grindael hadn't done that and think it's way below him. But at the same time, there's NO WAY IN EARTH, HEAVEN, OR HELL that anyone is going to read his quoted material and think that those were your original words. They're FAR too over-the-top for anyone to take seriously. So you're safe. They're his way of lashing out at your continued badgering and are indicative that he's reached the end of his rope.
If I hadn't done what I did, this would just be another incident and then I will have to go through DickNasty's ____ all over again at some future time. I blew this up because it is the only way to deal with this jerk. I'm not going to take his ____ any more. I can handle the occasional trolling from him, IF HE KEPT HIS WORD and made his comments and then left it alone, which he continually promises to do, but then doesn't. It boggles my mind that this person clamors about the rules and how abused he is, when he is the ultimate abuser.
I was reading some of Jersey's comments about her and Lemmie. I too, have had my run ins with Jersey. And I mean that in the best of ways. She's called me out when she sees something from me that she feels is questionable and yeah, we've gone at it. But unlike Mental, she has a point. She has an agenda, and what is that? She's true to herself. We can have disagreements, move on and forget all about them, but learn from them. Why is this important or why should anyone care? Maybe it's not. But it is to me and I do.
I post here for a variety of reasons. I like reading what many people write. And I like Shades and this forum. But I love Mormon History. We all have our takes on it, and I'm not shy about mine. I'm a critic of Joseph Smith. I don't believe he was a real prophet. And say what you want, I know that people who do believe in him and don't believe in him can write good Mormon History. And there is so much there to find, to share and discuss. That is what the purpose of this place is.
I don't have to post anything here, and really, I'm very busy but I LIKE TO. I remember when I was first delving into Mormon History after a long absence after leaving the Church. I was hungry for information, for my own sake. To figure things out. I distinctly remember my feelings back then, and how frustrated I was that I could not find original quotations, original documents to READ FOR MYSELF. I try to provide those to this forum. Why? Because I see so many who are just like me. And sorry to say, many of the great historians have abandoned this place, mostly because they are busy doing other things. I don't want to do that. And I want to be a great historian of Mormonism. I've gotten my compliments and MANY CRITICISMS. But I've grown here, amongst all of you. It's almost like family. That may seem strange, but its true. And it is something that DickNasty will NEVER UNDERSTAND. His take on this place? It's a CESSPOOL. We are all disgruntled assholes lashing out. He couldn't be more wrong. It's a potpourri of wonderful people who are going through or been through something we all have in common. And even those like the PUGnacious Jersey who doesn't have a dog in that fight. Ceeboo. Lots of NEVERMO's here. All with valuable insights and gems of wisdom and humor that make this place special.
DickNasty OFFENDS me. He wants nothing more than to tear this place apart with his passive/aggressive ____. But all of us have the closed minds. It's all negative and we thrive on that. This person is a ____ creep. But like everyone else, he is welcome here. I'll say it again, he can go to the Celestial Forum and never have an issue. But he won't. Why? Because he knows that the Terrestrial Forum is more laid back and that is where he thinks he can get the best bang for his buck with his trolling. So all his complaints are phony. As phony as the vitriol he spews out day after day. Shades is right about one thing, I've had it with his ____. This is my last go round with this kind of controversy. I have a blog I can write on but I CHOOSE many, many times to post HERE. To generate discussions HERE. To participate HERE. I can post in real time and get real time discussions. I can hone my skills and learn things from others. That is so very valuable. People here are not just numbers to me for traffic on my blog, that I can link and run. I'm invested in this place. It's a GOOD place. It beats Facebook and other forums all to hell. Shades allows people to be themselves here, (if they so choose).
I'm also a human being and I get frustrated, angry and have feelings. I'm a REAL PERSON who isn't afraid to let people know who I am and where I'm coming from. I know there are people who post here anonymously and for good reasons. But at the end of the day, some can use that to misrepresent, make things up and write things they never would if people knew who they were. And then to hide behind anonymity and then claim that you are being slandered or your reputation is being smeared is ridiculous. And to claim you don't feel "safe" is even more ludicrous. But that is how DickNasty twists all that to his own ends, to further his Apologetic agenda to troll people to death.
I hate phonies. There are Anon's here who are stellar. You KNOW they are not phony. They are consistent in their presentation of themselves and their stories and their insights. DickNasty is NONE OF THAT. He comes on threads and makes it all about himself or attacks others. His M.O. is to post inane Mormon Apologia.
I'm continually told don't fall for his BS. But really, he's like a ____ toothache, constantly wearing you out with the nagging distracting pain. Enough is enough. Will all this even matter in the end? I don't know. This post will probably sink into obscurity and that's ok. But I wanted anyone who gives a ____ to know where I am coming from HERE and NOW. I'm not making any demands. I'm here and that's that. But I won't be abused or trolled without fighting back. Maybe to some, that's beneath me, but I don't think so. But whatever people think, I'm who I am and I'm ok with that, flaws and all. And just so you know, I reported MYSELF to Shades. I don't like taking out the garbage or cleaning my toilet either, but it has to be done or you have to live with it. That, I'm not willing to do so think less of me for acting out. I can handle it.
PS. I did leave a notice about what I was doing with DickNasty's comments. Under every one I put a disclaimer that I was "Translating" them. So there is that. He's not being misrepresented. His ORIGINAL quotes are there for all to read. If DickNasty doesn't understand parody, then he needs to crawl back under his rock. But of course, he won't do that and will milk his whine thread for all it's worth to him. Classic example on his current thread,
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I could have extinguished the fire by not feeding and/or commenting on his response(s) to me. grindael and I are kind of like oil and water...we really don't mix well at all.

Lesson learned. Hold me to it!
Then just a couple of posts later,
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The two things that bother me are his rampant usage of potty mouth language...which I have mentioned that I've come to accept as being part and parcel of who he is on the inside...and the multiple examples of misquotation. Yes, maybe it's meant to be 'funny', but nonetheless it's taking someone else's words, changing them, and quoting them as if it is the original poster saying those words. I simply don't think that's the right thing to do...
My response? ____ YOU, you arrogant asshole.
Does he even know how dishonest and ____ up he is? Apparently not. He can't let it go. He won't. And the language? It's all for him BECAUSE, as Tator astutely observed, I do indeed have his number. DickNasty could just ignore me, BUT HE WON'T. He is in a ____ of his own making. BUT THIS IS WHAT HE WANTS. I'm not going to let him have his way with me. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. And I got something very valuable from this, NO MORE WHINEFEST threads.
If DickNasty had a clue at all, he would notice that I SELDOM use bad language with others. I get along well even with my critics if they stick to the evidence and don't attack me personally. But DickNasty doesn't get it. He never will.
He's on notice. Disrupt my threads and see what happens. He won't like it. Attack me personally again and see what happens. He won't like it.
