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 Post subject: The Diary of another Leftist Character Assassination....
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:54 pm 
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This time some Republicans are even falling for it, just like Romney and the like acted like Leftists in judging Trump etc., lying about him, falsely degrading him. Establishment Republicans again being Leftists in their judgments, the willful embracing of lies and perversions of fact and truth.

https://www.Facebook.com/myiannopoulos/ ... 3248344905

https://www.Facebook.com/myiannopoulos/ ... 6321621931

So basically, the video was "edited" to make it seem like he was promoting Pedophilia and sexual abuse, however he absolutely wasn't.
In context he was talking about the subject, etc.

So, Leftist's promote someone like Lena Dunham who joyfully admits to long term molesting her sister, has an absolute pervert father, will promote and mainstream Pedophilia and Pedophiles on Salon, but the Left will pervert someone on the Right's words so as to character assassinate him.

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All those leftist liberal elites over at CPAC are being so mean to poor Milo, suppressing his right to free speech!

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Maybe you haven't noticed, but "establishment" Republicans ARE in fact Leftists often times, which is why we want to "drain the swamp".

If you judge like a leftist, then you're a leftist in that thing. If you're doing it all the time (aka McCain) then you're a Leftist period.
Even those on the Right can do wrong....
Just like even those on the Left can do right, actually going against their party/Leftist ideology.

Welcome to life.... Doesn't mean wrong shouldn't be condemned when it's wrong. CPAC did wrong.

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faqless:

That makes absolutely no sense. Par for the course.


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Par for the course that you don't get basic logic and facts of reality....

Let me make it more clear for you.
A Conservative can think about something the same way as a Leftist does, thus that makes them leftist in that thing/judgment.
A Leftist can think about something the same way a Conservative does, thus that makes them Conservative in that thing/judgment.

Not everyone thinks exactly the same about every little thing, in other words.
Further irony, is you moron's like to accuse me of this, believing I think ALL Leftists think exactly the same on "everything".
LOL :confused:

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faqs, I know that this is personal for you, due to your own self-professed attraction to "small-framed, young-looking" individuals, but you are just going to have to get over the fact that very few people want to commit to your own moral degradations, and that even Milo's tired anti-liberal schtick just isn't enough to prop him up in front of a conservative audience in light of that problem.


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As a 100% Conservative and 100% Faithful to Righteousness I fully support Milo, because I actually listen to him.... thus I understand the "context" of his words. He was not promoting Pedophilia, people are mixing two things, his statement of the technical definition, and then his talking about young boys, which he should have said young men. He wasn't talking about "children", those above pedo definition, but below the legal age of consent. Sad seeing conservatives "Bear False Witness" like Leftists do.

The having a "purity test" in order to support someone who fights on the side of right, and for the right, despite their own personal failings and the acknowledgment of such is just as wrong as anything. We aren't to hate the sinner while hating the sin. Every evidence makes clear Milo doesn't support "child abuse", and yes that's including those just below the age of consent, so taking his works out of their intent and context in one video is the definition of "Bearing False Witness", the using of a little truth to lie, to pervert, to distort, to falsely degrade.....

P.S.... Saying I don't like "fat" people, that my own body type (when I'm at it) fit's better smaller women, has nothing to do with "liking smaller framed individuals" aka that I'm some Pedophile myself. Truly sad how evil you people are.... the willful bearing false witness.

BTW, given that I talk about EVERYTHING that relates to Right and Wrong, good and evil, please tell me why EVERYTHING ELSE isn't "personal" to me.
Idiot... slimeball.

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Seeing as you are self admitted indulger in 15 year-old prostitutes, it does not surprise me you would support a fellow ephebophile (not to mention the Joseph Smith connection).

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Xenophon wrote:
Seeing as you are self admitted indulger in 15 year-old prostitutes, it does not surprise me you would support a fellow ephebophile (not to mention the Joseph Smith connection).


Love how you all use a little truth to LIE over and over again....

I one time when I was young, in the Marines saw a Prostitute.... oooo ahhhh, the "controversy", something nobody ever does when in the Military (and I btw was an Atheist ex-Mormon, Anti-Mormon, Anti-Religionist at the time, so ____ you with your Joseph Smith ____, if anything I was YOUR STANDARDS asshole....).
And yes, I said she "appeared" young, but she said she was 18, and in hindsight given experience and knowledge of how girls can look younger than they are even though they are over 18, I have no idea how old she actually was, but she was clearly plenty old enough to be doing what she was doing and giving consent to the activity. And no, it's not something I support or agree with, but it's what happened, period. People do things they shouldn't sometimes, especially when young.

MILO-Gate: The Enigma of the Alt-Right Provocateur
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And yes, I said she "appeared" young, but she said she was 18, and in hindsight given experience and knowledge of how girls can look younger than they are even though they are over 18, I have no idea how old she actually was, but she was clearly plenty old enough to be doing what she was doing and giving consent to the activity.



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Xenophon wrote:
Seeing as you are self admitted indulger in 15 year-old prostitutes, it does not surprise me you would support a fellow ephebophile (not to mention the Joseph Smith connection).


New York still allows a 14 year old to marry.


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ldsfaqs wrote:
I one time when I was young, in the Marines saw a Prostitute.... oooo ahhhh, the "controversy", something nobody ever does when in the Military (and I btw was an Atheist ex-Mormon, Anti-Mormon, Anti-Religionist at the time, so ____ you with your Joseph Smith ____, if anything I was YOUR STANDARDS asshole....).


BTW, the Joseph Smith connection is that he had a penchant for girls "just shy of their 15th year" as well and nothing to do with the morals of Mormonism. Just to note though, even as an ex-mormon, I do not partake in prostitutes.

I think it also worth pointing out that in your original post on this, you said you believed her to be 15 and went ahead with it anyways. That is the part people have a problem with. I believe most of the members of this board don't care what two consenting adults do... but they do have a problem if one of the "adults" isn't actually an adult. (ETA: thanks Tish for reiterating the point for me)

A quick reminder of your original statement:
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To give an example, when I was in the Marine Corps, during my apostasy period, I had sex with what I presumed to be a 15 year old prostitute. Of course, she claimed to be 18, but I could tell otherwise.

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Xenophon wrote:
Seeing as you are self admitted indulger in 15 year-old prostitutes, it does not surprise me you would support a fellow ephebophile (not to mention the Joseph Smith connection).


New York still allows a 14 year old to marry.


What about prostitution? We all know anytime anything is legal it is the right thing.

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I fail to see how that shows that prostitution should be legal or is okay for a 15yo... I am sure that is not the point you are trying to make but I don't see what the "SEE" is.

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Saying I don't like "fat" people, that my own body type (when I'm at it) fit's better smaller women, has nothing to do with "liking smaller framed individuals" aka that I'm some Pedophile myself. Truly sad how evil you people are.... the willful bearing false witness.

Two points here:

1. Your body type in no way "fits better" with a small-framed individual, unless you are trying to tell me something in particular about the parts of you that actually do the fitting.

2. You made the comment about your preference for smaller-framed, younger-looking people in the context of a discussion about men having sex with underage partners.

No one wants to be like you. Give it up.


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So basically, the video was "edited" to make it seem like he was promoting Pedophilia and sexual abuse, however he absolutely wasn't.
In context he was talking about the subject, etc.
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The unedited video is out there, so there has been no taking him out of context. He literally says the idea of consent in sexual relations is “arbitrary and oppressive”.

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The unedited video is out there, so there has been no taking him out of context. He literally says the idea of consent in sexual relations is “arbitrary and oppressive”.


Ok. So he said that. I saw a transcript of the discussion online and he just comes off as trying to be nuanced and convey the idea that within his community sexuality and consent aren't black and white. I don't really agree with him to a full extent, but I don't think he's advocating across-the-board ephebophilia, either.

That said, do you have hard line for sexual consent that isn't arbitrary nor oppressive?

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eta: I just read the Vagina Monologues promoted statutory rape as a healing experience, but due to a bit of backlash they changed the age of the girl from 13 to 16. Still. You know. Not a lot of people losing their minds over that.

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I would draw a hard line with a young teen and an adult regarding consent. It may be oppressive on some level, but on that level we're also oppressing them by not letting them drive or live alone at 13 or 14, and I'm fine with that too. I don't think its especially arbitrary, we don't deem them mature enough for many things at that age. I wouldn't draw the same line for two teens having sex with each other, or a 17 year old consenting to a 24 year old.

I actually agree with Milo's comment about the age of consent laws generally being ok. And i get what he was doing here, and like you i don't think he was actually advocating hebe/ephebophilia. He was trying just a bit too hard to be outrageous, which is his whole shtick. Mostly I'm just enjoying the whole thing. Watching this guy's ascendance as the bizarro gay prince of the ultra right and now watching how they fast they turned on him, and how quick they went to anti gay vitriol is nice and schadenfreude-y.

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I love that he's been destroyed by the same kind of misleading, over-sensationalized story that he was fond of writing.

Live by the pen, die by the pen. Good stuff, if you like justice.

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I love that he's been destroyed by the same kind of misleading, over-sensationalized story that he was fond of writing.

Live by the pen, die by the pen. Good stuff, if you like justice.


I think it's fully ironic, but I don't know that he's destroyed. I've been listening to his interviews and speeches the past few days while dealing with some stuff going on IRL and I don't know, I appreciate a small bit of what he says but he's either too immature or something to be effective. I still don't feel like I know enough about him. I guess it's the shock value he's after but I don't think that serves anyone well long term.

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