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 Post subject: Re: A request for Ceeboo
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:39 am 
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I have no doubt that what Ceeboo has expressed in this thread is an accurate synopsis of his "understanding" of evolution.

If I understood it that way, I'd doubt it too. Lucky for me, I'm not handicapped by religious beliefs.

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I recently read this book on evolution: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/ ... 1476776637

It covers three advances in the science over the past few decades: the addition of Archea to the tree of life, horizontal gene transfer, and Symbiogenesis. I really enjoyed it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:28 am 
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Res Ipsa wrote:
I recently read this book on evolution: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/ ... 1476776637

It covers three advances in the science over the past few decades: the addition of Archea to the tree of life, horizontal gene transfer, and Symbiogenesis. I really enjoyed it.


I think you're setting the bar way too high. Let's recommend this book as a primer for Ceeboo:

https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... kQQ8wII3wc

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Res Ipsa wrote:
I recently read this book on evolution: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/ ... 1476776637

It covers three advances in the science over the past few decades: the addition of Archea to the tree of life, horizontal gene transfer, and Symbiogenesis. I really enjoyed it.


I haven't read the book yet. I might pick it up in the next month or so. For what it is worth, Lynn Margulis was an absolute nut, but (partially) right about an important aspect of evolution in the face of a lot of criticism. It's really difficult for writers to accurately thread the needle on what her contributions to the field are. I'm curious how this work manages.


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EAllusion wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:
I recently read this book on evolution: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/ ... 1476776637

It covers three advances in the science over the past few decades: the addition of Archea to the tree of life, horizontal gene transfer, and Symbiogenesis. I really enjoyed it.


I haven't read the book yet. I might pick it up in the next month or so. For what it is worth, Lynn Margulis was an absolute nut, but (partially) right about an important aspect of evolution in the face of a lot of criticism. It's really difficult for writers to accurately thread the needle on what her contributions to the field are. I'm curious how this work manages.


I think it did a pretty good job with Margulis. IIRC, it gave her credit for the stuff she was right about, while making it clear she tried to hyper extend her theory to the point of silliness. She’s wackadoodle on AIDS, but the book doesn’t discuss that.

I worked my way through undergrad as a clerk/proofreader for a microbiology prof. He was very interested in what would eventually become the Archea and in Margulis’s work. I was a lowly Econ major and didn’t know until I read this book how important both areas of study were to the field.

I got to talk to Margulis once after she had testified as an expert witness in one of the big creation science trials. She was friendly and helpful. (I was writing a feature article for the law school paper on the trial.). Gould, not so much....

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