If you want to grow your own red gums for burls you better plant them soon. It probably takes a good 200 years to grow a decent sized one.
I was wondering how red wood burls relate to the twisted world of LDS apologetics. The wood is very dense, with deformed and distorted grain and filled with dormant growth buds. Nope, can't think of any similarities.
sports metaphors have nothing on nature metaphors.
If you want to grow your own red gums for burls you better plant them soon. It probably takes a good 200 years to grow a decent sized one.
I was wondering how red wood burls relate to the twisted world of LDS apologetics. The wood is very dense, with deformed and distorted grain and filled with dormant growth buds. Nope, can't think of any similarities.
LOL ...
But actually here in So Ca, in the valleys and in San Diego, they do grow like weeds. I was wondering if any of these might be Red Gums.
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
The English word "Christian" is not the word that was originally on the Nephite record
It should be remembered that the Book of Mormon is a translation of an ancient Nephite text. The English word "Christian" is not the word that was originally on the Nephite record, but is the English word that Joseph Smith used when translating the original Nephite word. The word "Christian" simply means "Christ-believer" in common use and in the Book of Mormon. We don't know what the original Nephite word was for "Christian", but it signified something like "Christ-believer." The word "Christ" is a Greek word that means the same thing as the Hebrew word "Messiah." The concept of a future Messiah was taught in ancient Israel, and anyone who believed those prophecies would have been a "Messiah-believer". Therefore, all pre-Christian era Israelites who believed in the coming Messiah/Christ were Christians in this sense. This is the sense we find in the Book of Mormon.
Lehi and his family left the Old World carrying with them the plates of brass that they obtained from Laban (1 Nephi 4). These plates contained "the prophecies of the holy prophets, from the beginning, even down to the commencement of the reign of Zedekiah; and also many prophecies which have been spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah." (1 Nephi 5:13). Therefore, the Nephites knew about the ancient prophecies of the future Messiah/Christ. Furthermore, the Book of Mormon records many more prophecies by New World prophets of the coming Messiah/Christ. All those who believed these prophecies were "Messiah-believers" or, equivalently, "Christ-believers." The English word that Joseph Smith used to convey this meaning was "Christian." https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Ques ... s_birth%3F
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Markk wrote:But actually here in So Ca, in the valleys and in San Diego, they do grow like weeds. I was wondering if any of these might be Red Gums.
If they are blue gums they have large single white flowers and form gum nuts the size of cherries. If they are red gums they have clusters of small white flowers. Most will be blue gums but red gums could grow there too.
LDS apologetics --> "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up, which creates the scandal." "Bigfoot is a crucial part of the ecosystem, if he exists. So let's all help keep Bigfoot possibly alive for future generations to enjoy, unless he doesn't exist." - Futurama
The English word "Christian" is not the word that was originally on the Nephite record
It should be remembered that the Book of Mormon is a translation of an ancient Nephite text. The English word "Christian" is not the word that was originally on the Nephite record, but is the English word that Joseph Smith used when translating the original Nephite word. The word "Christian" simply means "Christ-believer" in common use and in the Book of Mormon. We don't know what the original Nephite word was for "Christian", but it signified something like "Christ-believer." The word "Christ" is a Greek word that means the same thing as the Hebrew word "Messiah." The concept of a future Messiah was taught in ancient Israel, and anyone who believed those prophecies would have been a "Messiah-believer". Therefore, all pre-Christian era Israelites who believed in the coming Messiah/Christ were Christians in this sense. This is the sense we find in the Book of Mormon.
Lehi and his family left the Old World carrying with them the plates of brass that they obtained from Laban (1 Nephi 4). These plates contained "the prophecies of the holy prophets, from the beginning, even down to the commencement of the reign of Zedekiah; and also many prophecies which have been spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah." (1 Nephi 5:13). Therefore, the Nephites knew about the ancient prophecies of the future Messiah/Christ. Furthermore, the Book of Mormon records many more prophecies by New World prophets of the coming Messiah/Christ. All those who believed these prophecies were "Messiah-believers" or, equivalently, "Christ-believers." The English word that Joseph Smith used to convey this meaning was "Christian." https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Ques ... s_birth%3F
Nice find Grindael. It's all pointing to a sloppy, or even non-existent, peer review process.
LDS apologetics --> "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up, which creates the scandal." "Bigfoot is a crucial part of the ecosystem, if he exists. So let's all help keep Bigfoot possibly alive for future generations to enjoy, unless he doesn't exist." - Futurama
The English word "Christian" is not the word that was originally on the Nephite record ...
That would seem to be the apologetic dodge I assumed had to exist. As far as it goes it's a perfectly valid point, but it's only an answer to the anachronism of the word "Christian". It says nothing about how anachronistic it is for the Nephites to be fervent believers in the doctrines of 19th century Protestantism under any kind of wording.
sports metaphors have nothing on nature metaphors.