Bastard Apostle David A Bednar wrote:There are no homosexual members of the Church
This could be an accurate statement. It depends on how you define what makes a person a homosexual. I have talked to many individuals that say they are attracted to a same-sex person but they have not engaged in homosexual intimacies or any sexual activity. In my definition that is not a homosexual, that person is a celebrate, possibly a "Wantaby homosexual". If you are an actual homosexual, having engaged in homosexual activity and have made that know to church leaders then you would be excommunicated and thus no longer a member of the Church. Therefore, the church does not have any homosexual members.
mocnarf wrote: This could be an accurate statement. It depends on how you define what makes a person a homosexual. I have talked to many individuals that say they are attracted to a same-sex person but they have not engaged in homosexual intimacies or any sexual activity. In my definition that is not a homosexual, that person is a celebrate, possibly a "Wantaby homosexual". If you are an actual homosexual, having engaged in homosexual activity and have made that know to church leaders then you would be excommunicated and thus no longer a member of the Church. Therefore, the church does not have any homosexual members.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's like telling a straight person they are not heterosexual just because they don't have sex or never have engaged in heterosexual sex.
Give me a break and don't insult my intelligence. Jesus Christ!
That's like telling closeted homosexual Mormons who don't actually commit physical sexual acts with other men that they are not real homosexuals although they commit sexual fantasies in their conscious minds or in their dreams at night.
Bastard Apostle David A Bednar wrote:There are no homosexual members of the Church
This could be an accurate statement. It depends on how you define what makes a person a homosexual. I have talked to many individuals that say they are attracted to a same-sex person but they have not engaged in homosexual intimacies or any sexual activity. In my definition that is not a homosexual, that person is a celebrate, possibly a "Wantaby homosexual". If you are an actual homosexual, having engaged in homosexual activity and have made that know to church leaders then you would be excommunicated and thus no longer a member of the Church. Therefore, the church does not have any homosexual members.
'Homosexual' means "sexually attracted to people of one's own sex." Google it. Bednar was not accurate and you're simply wrong.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
mocnarf wrote:Blank could be an accurate statement. It depends on how you define blank.
Pure fekking genius, folks.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
Though I doubt it is the situation here - it brings to mind Law Enforcement photographed laughing over the dead body after a shootout. Laughing in relief after major stress is normal and doesn't mean they are laughing at a victim - but a photograph or video does not show context.
Bedbug did not even address the problem of the day - that is the real problem here. He could not change his prepared rant to address the reality on a campus that is known for denying it. He is way out of touch with what is needed, selfish in his own little world where he expects worship and instant obedience. He is not there to help.
“Those who never retract their opinions love themselves more than they love truth.” ― Joseph Joubert