"Women used to sit on their front porches" Primary President

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"Women used to sit on their front porches" Primary President

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In a demonstration of how out of touch and distant leaders in the Church are from the general membership, Joy Jones (General Primary President) made the following remarks...
Referring to a recent time when the women were having so much fun together that they forgot to push the button on the elevator, Sister Jones said unity makes the gospel joyful. “There is joy in the journey,” said Sister Cordon.

Women used to sit on their front porches,” said Sister Jones. “Now we close our doors and we are so separate.”

Social media has further isolated youth and women, said Sister Bingham.

There are Church members that are “so lonely,” added Sister Cordon. “We have to be on the front porch after our meetings.”

https://www.ldschurchnews.com/leaders-a ... ings-48076

Ahem, no. Does she not realise how many members don't have, nor have ever had, a property with a so-called front porch?
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Indeed. The whole idea of suburbia as it developed in the 1950s was so each family could define itself as it saw fit. The social scene shifted from the front porch, where the whole neighborhood could see you, to the back yard, where you got to choose who was in your friends circle.

The down side to the front porch culture was that everybody in the neighborhood got to be part of the social control network that imposed very strict rules on every aspect of your life, and they got to decide who could and who couldn't live in the neighborhood.

This is the problem with conservatism. In its strictest sense it means preservation of the status quo. But sometimes the status quo is wrong.
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I have a question wrote:Social media has further isolated youth and women, said Sister Bingham.

She didn't get that backward notion from Us. How can media that increases contact with more other people isolate you?
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slskipper wrote:This is the problem with conservatism. In its strictest sense it means preservation of the status quo. But sometimes the status quo is wrong.


Yes, the church leaders are always complaining about societal change instead of actually leading. Were the 1950's that great? It seems segregation was a bad thing and women's rights have improved a lot since "Father Knows Best."
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The Celestial Kingdom is a McMansion in South Jordan or Sandy with a big porch that Molly Mormon can sit on and read her Wendy Nelson while waiting for her children to come home from school. Isn't it marvelous? :razz:
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