Loophole BYU Victim Expulsion Despite Amnesty

[_MsJack]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/08/05/ ... ge-upheld/

A BYU-Idaho student reports that she has been suspended from the university despite the school's new "amnesty" policy for sexual assault victims. How?

She was drinking prior to the assault, and the man who assaulted her reported her to her bishop---who took away her ecclesiastical endorsement.

Good ol' boys' networks die hard, it seems.

I sincerely hope this policy is changed. I'd say it's time for annual ecclesiastical endorsements to go. As the article points out, no other conservative Christian colleges have such a system where your pastor / ecclesiastical leader can effectively kick you out of school after you've been admitted.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

MsJack,

I'm guessing you would object if we start calling this the "MsJack Loophole?'

[_MsJack]

I'm guessing you would object if we start calling this the "MsJack Loophole?'

Why would we call it that?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Here's BYU's Title IX website:

https://titleix.byu.edu/

https://titleix.byu.edu/faq-title-ix-and-the-honor-code

Being a victim of sexual assault is NEVER a violation of the Honor Code, and victims will never be punished for being sexually assaulted. The university recognizes that victims or witnesses of Sexual Misconduct might be hesitant to report an incident to university officials if victims or witnesses fear the discovery of Honor Code violations, such as alcohol use, drug use, or consensual sexual activity outside of marriage. To help address this concern and to encourage the reporting of Sexual Misconduct, the Title IX Office will not share the identity of a victim or witness with the Honor Code Office unless requested by such person or a person’s health or safety is at risk. Additionally, amnesty will be given for any Honor Code violations that may have occurred at or near the time of the sexual assault.

I'm a little confused how amnesty works when an ecclesiastical endorsement is rescinded. The Bishop's actions have a chilling effect on this policy.

- Doc

[_Dr Exiled]

Total, complete nonsense. Don't allow your children to go to any BYU school. While the undergraduate education may be a bargain, the social cost outweighs whatever savings there is.

[_candygal]

The man who assaulted her turned her into her bishop...
Jeezus...what is wrong with this picture??? YBU..you suck!

[_MsJack]

The man who assaulted her turned her into her bishop...
Jeezus...what is wrong with this picture??? YBU..you suck!

Yes. To be clear, they were from the same ward, and his bishop was also her bishop.

But there is something very wrong with the university signing off on her suspension. If nothing else, the university could direct sexual assault victims to the BYU nondenominational chaplain for a provisional endorsement in cases like this.

[_moksha]

BYU-Idaho was rather clever getting around their pledge to adhere to the Title IX guidelines. The bishop simply put his shoulder to the wheel and pushed Title IX compliance aside.

[_Lemmie]

amnesty will be given for any Honor Code violations that may have occurred at or near the time of the sexual assault.

AT or NEAR. So if you sinned "far from" the time of your assault, then no amnesty. Who defines how many minutes is "far from"?

More seriously, If I recall correctly, this person said the school faculty member who is the Dean of Students is also the title IX coordinator. Isn't the title IX coordinator federally mandated to be an independent position? I think when byu overhauled their title IX positions, they couldn't even be in the same office location as the honor code administrators, due to the perceived conflict of interest.