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 Post subject: RFM Wins on Appeal to the Utah State Records Committee!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:19 pm 
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Just had the hearing.

We won!

The Utah Records Committee just voted unanimously that the BYUPD improperly classified the police reports AND the audio tapes of the interviews as not subject to GRAMA.

Judge Laura Scott has still not issued her ruling in the other case on appeal before her, and this decision by the Records Committee is subject to her ruling that BYUPD is a governmental agency and is therefore subject to GRAMA.

Which is what everybody, including the five-member State Records Committee, understands she is going to do.

This is Radio Free Mormon signing off the air!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:21 pm 
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Woo hoo!! Congratulations!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:29 pm 
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Wow, excellent job, Consiglieri! Well done.


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consiglieri wrote:
Judge Laura Scott has still not issued her ruling in the other case on appeal before her, and this decision by the Records Committee is subject to her ruling that BYUPD is not a governmental agency and is therefore subject to GRAMA.

I thought non-governmental agencies weren't subject to GRAMA. She has ruled otherwise?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Yeah...congrats!!!


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Runtu wrote:
Woo hoo!! Congratulations!


Woo hoo is right!

Yessss.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Dr. Shades wrote:
consiglieri wrote:
Judge Laura Scott has still not issued her ruling in the other case on appeal before her, and this decision by the Records Committee is subject to her ruling that BYUPD is not a governmental agency and is therefore subject to GRAMA.

I thought non-governmental agencies weren't subject to GRAMA. She has ruled otherwise?


Fixed it!

Nice catch, Doctor!

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Great victory! Congratulations!

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I have a short episode ready to be published, and hopefully that will go tonight.

I actually recorded the hearing as it was taking place.

I think it's kind of fun!

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Way to go RFM/Consiglieri!!! Looking forward to the short episode!

Next is we’re just waiting for the judge’s ruling and then the PD will release? Is that immediate? Can they appeal?

(Sorry, I don’t know he process)


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Now that is what making a real difference is all about! Congrats, consig!


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Awesome, congrats. It will be interesting to see what is in these records that they so fiercely wanted to keep private. Is this something that could potentially impact Ms. Denson's case?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:26 pm 
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Here is a link to the eight-minute podcast that just went up on the hearing!

https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/201 ... on-appeal/

I think it is pretty amusing, if I do say so myself!

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Consiglieri, I’m not sure if you listened to the MormonLeaks recording of their hearing, but the very last second of the recording includes your first name :) “and up next is XXXXXX”


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woo hoo!

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How long does BYUPD have to comply with the records request, or can they appeal?

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Looks like Judge Laura Scott finally got her decision out today.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/07/13/ ... should-be/

It appears to be official, then.

BYUPD is a governmental agency and is subject to GRAMA requests.

Although BYU may certainly end up appealing Judge Scott's decision.

They will also be needing to appeal the Committee's decision from yesterday in order to keep it from becoming final.

In the meantime, I thought it would be a good idea to send a fresh GRAMA request to the BYUPD for records, emails and memos relating to the decisions to redact the police reports in the Joseph Bishop case, together with the decision to not allow access to the audio taped interviews upon GRAMA request; regardless of whether those documents pertain to people inside the BYUPD or outside the BYUPD.








So I did.

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The Church thinks their Nazi Police Department should have special privileges in being able to conceal information.

Request denied!

CULT!

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Commendable effort and impressive results Consig.
Lets see how deep the rabbit hole goes, or if the LDS inc will try to intersect the truth being shouted from rooftops.

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