Vogel video on Abraham Part 3

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Philo Sofee wrote: WHY does God ALWAYS seem to think it is more convincing to encrypt and mystify and hide things like languages and symbolisms within symbols of other symbol that yet come from other languages which were encrypted from yet other languages which in turn came from squiggles on cave walls (themselves encrypted).......


Because it's CIPHERLY delicious?


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Dan,

Thanks for pointing out how Joe Smith stole names out of the Book of Josephus which he had in his possession.

Pretty much, Smith stole everything he ever said from other sources. He was a common thief.
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It's interesting to point out the infinite differences between Joseph Smith and his successors when it comes to claiming revelations pertaining to mysterious things using so-called gifts of the Spirit. First Presidencies following Smith are lackluster and empty -- prophets who don't prophesy, seers who see not, and revelators who reveal nothing. Just look at the amazing claims of Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery! Compare that with the First Presidency today and there is simply no comparison. Tommy Boy Monson was constantly quoting poetry and telling insipid stories about widows and orphans. Nelson and his cronies are flying around the world like rock stars having their rings (asses) kissed by groupies.

I'd love to tell Nelson to his face that he's a fake and rebuke him.
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John Gee's futile attempts to separate the Alphabet & Grammar from Joseph Smith demonstrates the clear differences Joseph Smith's Egyptology is from John Gee's. Smith and Gee are not going to agree on anything when it comes to translating the Egyptian language. I think it's fair to say that John Gee is Joseph Smith's enemy when it comes to Smith's claims and methods in translating Egyptian.

Take Facsimile No. 3 for example. Does John Gee defend those translations? Does he support Smith in his claim that a king's name is written therein? Nope. Gee does not stand by the prophet at all. Gee doesn't believe Joseph Smith knew what he was talking about because he can read the writing for himself and he knows Joseph Smith lied.

Again, John Gee KNOWS Joseph Smith lied. He knows it!
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"I know Joseph Smith lied. There is no king's name written in the writing of Facsimile No. 3. Clearly, Joseph Smith made that up out of thin air."

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Dan,

Kudles for mentioning that Joseph Smith obviously lifted astrological symbols (earth, moon, sun) from the Almanac. He knew they were of ancient origins -- throwing the Greek into the Egyptian like a melting pot and mix it up for a tossed salad -- J. Smith the flim-flam scholar doing what he did best -- make stuff up out of stuff he stole. Way to go, Joe!

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BUMP... In case you missed this... (you shouldn't have)
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door;
Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors.
One focal point in a random world can change your direction:
One step where events converge may alter your perception.
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