Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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I have a question wrote:It is unclear whether the Church, 40 years after its end, will apologise for the period of institutionally sanctioned racism that prevailed up to June 1978.

It’s also unclear why this merits an official ‘event’ whilst last year, 175 years of the Relief Society was not to be celebrated with an official ‘event’.

I imagine President Oaks will caution President Nelson that giving an apology is a sign of weakness and something that could be used to undermine the Magisterium.

We will have to see if President Nelson follows his better instincts and ignores this advice. Maybe a junior apostle (Elder Gong?) or a Seventy will preside at this event if Oaks argues his case successfully.
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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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I have a question wrote:
It is unclear whether the Church, 40 years after its end, will apologise for the period of institutionally sanctioned racism that prevailed up to June 1978.


I guess the prophets are fallible humans that never apologize
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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
I have a question wrote:
It is unclear whether the Church, 40 years after its end, will apologise for the period of institutionally sanctioned racism that prevailed up to June 1978.


I guess the prophets are fallible humans that never apologize


Because, of course, as a fallible human, there's nothing to be learned from apologizing...
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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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I have a question wrote:
The church’s governing First Presidency said Monday that it will host a “celebration” June 1 at the Conference Center in downtown Salt Lake City to mark the 40th anniversary of that revelatory change. The event, details of which are yet to be announced, is to be broadcast from the Conference Center at 7 p.m.

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2 ... riesthood/

It is unclear whether the Church, 40 years after its end, will apologise for the period of institutionally sanctioned racism that prevailed up to June 1978.

It’s also unclear why this merits an official ‘event’ whilst last year, 175 years of the Relief Society was not to be celebrated with an official ‘event’.


1. It is more unclear whether the "facts" you state will actually be in deference to being honest of your fellow men and the church.

Racism is in reference to a "race", or more specifically to more generally to "skin color" as associated with such race.
It is how actual racists have always been racist. They didn't discriminate whether you were black African or black Indian, black was black in their mind, and they thought you were lessor.

Since Blacks just as black as any African black WERE given the priesthood, in India, parts of Central/South America, the Islands, etc. it cannot be honestly stated that the Church was engaging in "Institutional Racism" against blacks.

A policy in which those of African Lineage, including white persons to not be allowed the priesthood is not the same as actual "racism".
Christ cannot be considered a "racist" for restricting the Gospel to only Jews until after his death when the official revelation was given to Peter to take it also to the Gentiles, a.k.a. non-Jews (i.e. the chosen lineage).
God cannot be considered "racist" for the Priesthood being entirely restricted to the Levitical Tribe (a.k.a. Lineage), while the other 11 Tribes were "banned" from the Priesthood.

I once left the church primarily over this issue, but I learned more and was corrected of my simplistic foolish judgment. It is no coincidence that the ban ended the same exact time period any significant discrimination against blacks in America and the world over also ended.

God knows more than you do....

2. As to the relief society's non-celebration...
How about you GOOGLE.... "relief society 150th anniversary" and learn?
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The Church celebrating the ending of 100 years of racism will neither apologise, nor remove the following from its canon...

21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.


The ‘event’ seems like a bit of attempted hollow, shallow, spin doctoring to me.
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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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I have a neighbor that's throwing a party to mark his one-year anniversary of not slapping his kids around. It's very heartwarming. This also comes on the heels of his wife's one-year anniversary of not shoplifting from retails outlets. Oddly enough they had a wide variety of door prizes for that one.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I have a neighbor that's throwing a party to mark his one-year anniversary of not slapping his kids around. It's very heartwarming. This also comes on the heels of his wife's one-year anniversary of not shoplifting from retails outlets. Oddly enough they had a wide variety of door prizes for that one.

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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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How about a celebration this year observing that we are a few months shy of a 177 years since Joseph Smith married a girl who was a few months shy of her 15th birthday?

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Re: Celebrating the end of 100 years of LDS Racism

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You guys are a hoot...I love you!!! Your wit and humor is way out there!!
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