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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:50 am 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... e1c40af9e3

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When Kelli Rowlette received the results from a DNA sample she had sent to a popular genealogy website, she assumed there had been a mistake.

The test showed that her DNA matched a sample from a doctor more than 500 miles away — and, though she had never heard of him, Ancestry.com predicted a parent-child relationship between the two.

At the time, Rowlette was not aware that more than 36 years ago, her parents had struggled to conceive.
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The pair was having a hard time conceiving. Mortimer diagnosed Fowler with a low sperm count and Ashby with a tipped uterus, a condition in which the uterus tilts toward the spine, according to the lawsuit.

The doctor recommended that Ashby undergo a procedure in which she would be inseminated with both sperm from her husband and an anonymous donor who matched the couple’s specifications, the lawsuit says. The couple requested a donor who was in college and taller than 6 feet with brown hair and blue eyes — and Mortimer told them that he had found a donor matching their description, the suit says.

But the lawsuit claims that when Mortimer performed the procedure in the summer of 1980, he used his own sperm. He did not match the couple’s specifications.

Ashby became pregnant and, in May 1981, Mortimer delivered his own child — never divulging the secret, according to the lawsuit.

Mortimer remained Ashby’s doctor for several years until the she and her husband moved to Washington state.

“Dr. Mortimer cried when Ms. Ashby informed him they were moving,” according to the lawsuit. “Dr. Mortimer knew Kelli Rowlette was his biological daughter but did not disclose this to Ms. Ashby or Mr. Fowler.”


Of course, Dr. Mortimer has served in several high-profile church callings.

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Gerald Elbert Mortimer, 66, Ammon 5th Ward, Ammon Idaho Stake, called as president of the new Cebu City Philippines Temple. President Mortimer's wife, Linda Gay McKinnon Mortimer, will serve as temple matron. President Mortimer is the area medical adviser for the Idaho Pocatello and Idaho Boise Missions, and serves as a Sunday School teacher and temple ordinance worker. He has served as president of the Philippines San Pablo Mission, stake president's counselor, bishop, bishop's counselor and ward Young Men president. A retired physician, he was born in Payson, Utah, to William Earl and Margaret Eastmond Johnson Mortimer.

A ward Relief Society president and temple ordinance worker, Sister Mortimer served with her husband as he presided over the Philippines San Pablo Mission. She has also served as a stake Relief Society president's counselor, ward Young Women advisor, Primary teacher and Sunday School teacher. She was born in Logan, Utah, to Glen and Thelma Linda Hatch McKinnon.

http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/art ... dents.html

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:07 am 
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Multiply and replenish the earth - that was the good doctor's favorite command.

It reminds me of this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson

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How did President Mortimer managed that without masterbating?

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It's a new thing called masturbating for the lord. It's reserved for doctors that want to spread their seed far and wide and have the means to do it. An additional caveat is that one must look at garment porn while doing it. :lol:

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I am wondering if part of the "apostasy" problem is the DNA revolution, encouraged by LDS. Among modern, straitlaced LDS, it is revealing more adultery and other sins than they can tolerate. Cognitive quandary.

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I am wondering if part of the "apostasy" problem is the DNA revolution, encouraged by LDS. Among modern, straitlaced LDS, it is revealing more adultery and other sins than they can tolerate. Cognitive quandary.


It's kind of ironic that Ancestry.com is contributing to the decline of the LDS church. Still, it must be making them a lot of money.

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Lawyers from Kirton McConkie have already subpoenaed her Church records and general confessional information. Doctor Mortimer and Joseph L Bishop (MTC President with a rape den), are both still Priesthood holding members of the Church. Eric Hawkins couldn’t be reached for comment...

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I have a question wrote:
Lawyers from Kirton McConkie have already subpoenaed her Church records and general confessional information. Doctor Mortimer and Joseph L Bishop (MTC President with a rape den), are both still Priesthood holding members of the Church. Eric Hawkins couldn’t be reached for comment...

Any reports will be shared with Dr. Mortimer's son to turn over to the press for a smear campaign.

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CameronMO wrote:
I have a question wrote:
Lawyers from Kirton McConkie have already subpoenaed her Church records and general confessional information. Doctor Mortimer and Joseph L Bishop (MTC President with a rape den), are both still Priesthood holding members of the Church. Eric Hawkins couldn’t be reached for comment...

Any reports will be shared with Dr. Mortimer's son to turn over to the press for a smear campaign.
:lol: :lol: This whole thread here...I don't know whether to laugh or cry..


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This story is finally blowing up in the Trib and beyond.

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Maksutov wrote:
This story is finally blowing up in the Trib and beyond.
Yep. On the news tonight.

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Maksutov wrote:
This story is finally blowing up in the Trib and beyond.

Well, I see that this was just posted over on MD&D.

I can't wait to read smac's defense for this story :lol:


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Madison54 wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
This story is finally blowing up in the Trib and beyond.

Well, I see that this was just posted over on MD&D.

I can't wait to read smac's defense for this story :lol:

You will be amazed!


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candygal wrote:
Madison54 wrote:
Well, I see that this was just posted over on MD&D.

I can't wait to read smac's defense for this story :lol:

You will be amazed!

I highly doubt that :wink:

He's got to be the most annoying poster on there (and he's got a lot of competition...haha). His style of posting is horrible and I usually just read a couple of lines and then skip the whole entire, VERY LONG and BORING post.


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I took a 6 week class in genealogy from a Uni in the UK so I'd like to lend my two cents expertise to the discussion. :mrgreen:

Exactly this issue was raised in my class and this is the true downside of the DNA testing, particularly the autosomal testing like we have from Ancestry which is so popular now. This can also happen with the other two types of DNA tests.

Some folks are uncovering their bio parent and are contacting them directly. Unfortunately not every bio parent wants to be contacted, nor do bio half-siblings.

Think about that...can of worms.

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This story has gone national:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/health/fertility-doctor-dna-test-lawsuit-bn/index.html

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Time for the Church to leak their dossier on Kelli Rowlette.

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It is interesting that on the same thread at the board which cannot be named they mention other cases, but not the most famous by Mormon doctor Cecil Jacobson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson

In defense of Mission President Mortimer, it is possible that he was visited by an angel telling him to "sow righteous seed" and if not he would be skewered by the angel's drawn sword.

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It is interesting that on the same thread at the board which cannot be named they mention other cases, but not the most famous by Mormon doctor Cecil Jacobson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson

In defense of Mission President Mortimer, it is possible that he was visited by an angel telling him to "sow righteous seed" and if not he would be skewered by the angel's drawn sword.

There was even a fun-filled documentary on LDS Dr. Cecil Jacobson that appeared on that learning program Saturday Night Live:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/deep-thoughts-drumsticks-to-dolphins/2724049?snl=1

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Yes..... Like no "non-mormon" doctor has ever done this. :rolleyes:

Low hanging fruit.

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Yes..... Like no "non-mormon" doctor has ever done this. :rolleyes:

Low hanging fruit.

This is a list of the clinicians that are known to have done this (or are accused of it):

Gerald Mortimer, Idaho
Donald Cline, Indianapolis
Cecil Jacobson, Utah
Roger Abdelmassih, Brazil
Ben Ramaley, Connecticut
Bertold Wiesner, UK
Thomas Lippert, Utah
Jan Karbaat, the Netherlands

3 of the 8 men (38%) are Mormon.

Mormons make up .2% of the global population and 1.7% of the US population.

So it actually is noteworthy that Mormon men keep doing this.

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