Johannes wrote:Are you talking about liturgical worship? If so, I think it depends where you look. Liturgy these days does tend to be textual, didactic and frankly boring - the average mainstream Christian Sunday morning service, Protestant or RC, is not that dissimilar from an LDS sacrament meeting - but not always, and you don't have to go to the Orthodox to get the mystical stuff. We're getting badly off topic here, but you can PM me if you're interested in recommendations for the apophatic style of worship.
Liturgical worship is actually preferable to me. I am tired of listening to people saying stupid things in church. Just last night I was reading the Latin mass and doing a little research on the Gallican Rite. The latter was because I read a book on the Jungian Christian Karlfried Graf Durckheim, and the fellow he was dialoguing with, Alphonse Goettmann, was at one time a priest of the Orthodox Church of France (an odd little sect that has fallen under various orthodox organizations over the years and uses a reconstructed Gallican Rite). Absolutely fascinating stuff, really. I have poked a little bit into books that argue for the early significance of some form of liturgy. I say smells and bells over treacly feel-good sermonizing. Because, here's the thing, doctrine is interesting to me, but I put very little stock in it. Maybe some sermons are OK, but a lot of the ones I have endured have been nothing worth remembering.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Maksutov wrote:Fascinating, Reverend. One of my favorite uncles was a frequent reader of The Spotlight and was always singing the praises of the Spokane/Couer d'Alene area. After he died I was browsing around and decided to check out the groups and sources he was quoting. His favorite publication The Spotlight was produced by neoNazi Willis Carto and the community in the NW my uncle spoke of so highly was the compound of the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, run by Richard Butler, whose "church" was decorated with Nazi emblems and taught Christian Identity racialism. My family is unwilling or unable to look at those connections and try to understand them. Just like another part of my LDS family is unwilling to look at their participation in polygamy in Mexico long after the Manifesto.
On my mission I met a woman whose father had been the prophet of a splinter group that left when blacks got the priesthood. The little sect was really all about the racism. She had left it and was taking the LDS discussions from missionaries in my zone. I had heard of these Christian Identity groups that evolved out of LDS splinters, but I have never known anyone who had the least indirect connection to the phenomenon. Fascinating stuff, Mak!
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Kishkumen wrote: On my mission I met a woman whose father had been the prophet of a splinter group that left when blacks got the priesthood. The little sect was really all about the racism. She had left it and was taking the LDS discussions from missionaries in my zone. I had heard of these Christian Identity groups that evolved out of LDS splinters, but I have never known anyone who had the least indirect connection to the phenomenon. Fascinating stuff, Mak!
The views of communities on memory and their own histories always seems full of paradoxes. Like individuals looking back on their own lives, I suppose.
There was a group in Salem, Utah that published pamphlets that match what you describe, right after the 1978 revelation. I purchased a couple and other publications from a group of "Charismatic Mormons" from a little shop in downtown SLC.