Elders Oaks, Ballard, and the Sixteen Questions

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_Xenophon
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Re: Elders Oaks, Ballard, and the Sixteen Questions

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Exiled wrote:That link does talk about the 9 different accounts but makes a poor attempt to downplay the differences. Here is an example:
Joseph’s increasingly specific descriptions can thus be compellingly read as evidence of increasing insight, accumulating over time, based on experience. In part, the differences between the 1832 account and the later accounts may have something to do with the differences between the written and the spoken word.


Pure nonsense. Generally memory fades over time and being more specific over time is usually a sign of an embellishment (except for superman Joe of course)

Ah, my mistake. I will admit to a quick perusal of this essay. Following my readings of both the "Race and the Priesthood" and the "Plural Marriage and Families in Early Utah" essays I didn't have much inclination to go through the rest.

You're correct to point out that there handling of those second-hand accounts is dubious at best.
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Re: Elders Oaks, Ballard, and the Sixteen Questions

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Exiled wrote:That link does talk about the 9 different accounts but makes a poor attempt to downplay the differences. Here is an example:
Joseph’s increasingly specific descriptions can thus be compellingly read as evidence of increasing insight, accumulating over time, based on experience. In part, the differences between the 1832 account and the later accounts may have something to do with the differences between the written and the spoken word.
Pure nonsense. Generally memory fades over time and being more specific over time is usually a sign of an embellishment (except for superman Joe of course)

especially with widely used memory holes.
A memory hole is any mechanism for the alteration or disappearance of inconvenient or embarrassing documents, photographs, transcripts, or other records, such as from a website or other archive, particularly as part of an attempt to give the impression that something never happened. The concept was first popularized by George Orwell's dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, where the Party's Ministry of Truth systematically re-created all potential historical documents, in effect, re-writing all of history to match the often-changing state propaganda. These changes were complete.

Ministry of Truth

The Ministry of Truth (in Newspeak, Minitrue) is the ministry of propaganda. As with the other ministries in the novel, the name Ministry of Truth is a misnomer because in reality it serves the opposite: it is responsible for any necessary falsification of historical events.

As well as administering truth, the ministry spreads a new language amongst the populace called Newspeak, in which, for example, "truth" is understood to mean statements like 2 + 2 = 5 when the situation warrants. In keeping with the concept of doublethink, the ministry is thus aptly named in that it creates/manufactures "truth" in the Newspeak sense of the word. The book describes the doctoring of historical records to show a government-approved version of events.
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