Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
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Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
A common explanation for Mormon critics/anti-Mormons is that "the devil inspires them to criticize/attack the church. To me, this falls under the logical falicy of "ad hominem." Does this seem correct to you all? If one says that a critic is influenced by the devil, isn't that attacking the critic rather than the argument?
This may seem a mundane post, but I hear this so often, especially from people over 60 (my age group) that it would be nice to reply, "that's a logical fallacy, more specifically called ad hominem.
This may seem a mundane post, but I hear this so often, especially from people over 60 (my age group) that it would be nice to reply, "that's a logical fallacy, more specifically called ad hominem.
Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
I think you've nailed it to the wall. Green jello meets deacon blues' wall.
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
deacon blues wrote:A common explanation for Mormon critics/anti-Mormons is that "the devil inspires them to criticize/attack the church. To me, this falls under the logical falicy of "ad hominem." Does this seem correct to you all? If one says that a critic is influenced by the devil, isn't that attacking the critic rather than the argument?
This may seem a mundane post, but I hear this so often, especially from people over 60 (my age group) that it would be nice to reply, "that's a logical fallacy, more specifically called ad hominem.
You're correct, but I don't know how far yelping out "that's a logical fallacy" will go when someone is trying to dismiss you by saying you're of the devil. The likely response will be, "if you think I'm breaking some logical rule, then it only proves you are of the devil, because only the devil would object to my obvious conclusion that you are of the devil. Therefore, you are an anti-Mormon. Logical fallacy that, satan."
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
deacon blues wrote:A common explanation for Mormon critics/anti-Mormons is that "the devil inspires them to criticize/attack the church. To me, this falls under the logical falicy of "ad hominem." Does this seem correct to you all? If one says that a critic is influenced by the devil, isn't that attacking the critic rather than the argument?
This may seem a mundane post, but I hear this so often, especially from people over 60 (my age group) that it would be nice to reply, "that's a logical fallacy, more specifically called ad hominem.
Surely you've realized by now that believers will disqualify your argument all together if you are using logic to support your argument.
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
Alma 32 uses logic. Why shouldn't Mormons.
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
One persons anti Mormon attack, is another’s simple question.
Rallying against the questioner is tacit acknowledgement that the answer is damaging to faith.
Rallying against the questioner is tacit acknowledgement that the answer is damaging to faith.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
deacon blues wrote:Alma 32 uses abuses logic.
FTFY
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
deacon blues wrote:Alma 32 uses logic. Why shouldn't Mormons.
2. And it came to pass that after much labor among them, they began to have success among the poor class of people; for behold, they were cast out of the synagogues because of the coarseness of their apparel—
3 Therefore they were not permitted to enter into their synagogues to worship God...
Ipso facto that is why we wear our Sunday best so as not to be cast out of our synagogues.
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
Tator wrote:I think you've nailed it to the wall. Green jello meets deacon blues' wall.
Thanks Dude.
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Re: Ad Hominem, Mormon style?
fetchface wrote:deacon blues wrote:Alma 32 uses abuses logic.
Fixed it for you
Hmmmmm. Could you be more specific? scientific?