LDS mayor excommunicated for refusing to be prophet's puppet

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LDS mayor excommunicated for refusing to be prophet's puppet

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I can't believe this didn't become news far, far earlier.

According to the author of this soon-to-be-linked weblog post, back in 2008 he was a member of the LDS church and serving as a mayor. The Mormon hierarchy told him to withdraw some legislation he had submitted to the, uh, legislature. When he refused to do so, more or less pointing out the separation between church and state, they ramped up the intimidation by threatening him with excommunication if he didn't comply.

He went public with the behind-the-scenes attempt at political manipulation, then was excommunicated for (what amounted to) insubordination.

Here's the post in question. Be sure to read the comments, because they contain important follow-up information:

https://blogs4conservatives.wordpress.c ... li-update/
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there is no doubt President Thomas S. Monson participated in the breaking of Federal law regarding tax exempt status and the non-compulsive requirements of legislative issues.
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Hopefully Pres. Plum will be too, if it hasn't happened already.
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Couldn't this be justified in the same manner by which certain Mormon D&D members are able to deny they are a moderator? It is through the doctrine of "Lying for the Board". The Brethren will deny that they ever try to directly influence political decisions.
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After reading more articles the guy kind of comes off as a crank.
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I would expect a development of the statement along the lines, I proposed this idea, it was criticized for this reason and I decided to go ahead anyway. I did not find any specifics about what he was talking about.This frustrates my curiosity. It also makes suspicious about the story.
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At one time the Catholic Church threatened politicians with excommunication who voted for capital punishment or abortion legislation. I applaud that church for using its influence to resist the tide of barbarism.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:At one time the Catholic Church threatened politicians with excommunication who voted for capital punishment or abortion legislation. I applaud that church for using its influence to resist the tide of barbarism.

Was that before or since the Great Apostasy?

Was that before or since it became the whore of all the earth?
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After. After.
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no thanks wrote:After reading more articles the guy kind of comes off as a crank.

Agreed, seemed to have some MMM hobby horse where I am missing the connection.
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