From My Informant: The Perils of Socialcam

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From My Informant: The Perils of Socialcam

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I received an intriguing PM earlier this afternoon. "I have something that you might find interesting," this person told me. A couple of small arrangements were made, and a remarkable screencap came into my possession. Now, I debated for a while on whether or not it would be a good idea to post this. Ultimately, I decided that there were several reasons why posting would be worthwhile. First of all, this will hopefully warn other people about the potential problems associated with using the Socialcam Facebook app. Secondly, I'm hoping this will serve as an opportunity for the FAIR Mopologists to rethink their use of people's Facebook material in their FAIR Wiki articles. (I'm looking at you, Trevor Holyoak.) Third, RayAgostini has been calling for more "humanization" of the Mopologists. Fourth, this may provide deeper inside into the Mopologist mindset.

In any case, this was the screencap I was sent:

(Moderator Note)IRL picture and Facebook caption removed.

Now, my first reaction was to chuckle. After I wiped away the tears of mirth, though, I began to doubt the authenticity of this image. Surely this was just somebody have a bit of fun with Photoshop. (This in spite of the utmost reliability of this informant.) Just as I was ready to shrug the entire thing off, however, another PM appeared in my InBox:

Informant X wrote:3 minutes ago he posted this:

DCP wrote:I've just learned something new. "Socialcam,"of which I'd never before heard, announces on Facebook if you've watched something on it. I got a Facebook notice earlier today that a friend had watched something that seemed . . . er, questionable. Surprised that he would watch it, but REALLY surprised that he would (as I thought) choose to ANNOUNCE that he had watched it, I watched it, too, to see if there was something funny or significant in it that would lead him to want to announce it to all of his Facebook friends. (There wasn't.) And now I find that I'VE seemingly chosen to announce that I watched the same thing -- which, at least, helps me to understand what happened to my friend (but is, otherwise, slightly embarrassing and quite irritating). My apologies. I've got lots of shortcomings, but this kind of stuff isn't among them.


Aha! So that's it. He wasn't just watching a salaciously-titled video of Jennifer Lopez all the way through to the end out of his own prurient interest (and hey: Ms. Jennifer Lopez is, after all, a lovely woman)--no, he was actually looking out for some mysterious "friend". Well, now, Dr. Peterson: there's no shame in watching videos like this! Then again, I'm sure all of us can understand why you might not want to announce to all of the world that you were watching a video about J.Lo and "boners." (Even if it was just out of curiosity/concern for your friend--sort of like those TBMs who claim to be looking at porn for the sake of "research.") What I can't quite wrap my head around is what he expected to find "funny or significant" in the film: did he expect it to conclude with some kind of edifying gospel message? And I suppose the unanswered question here is: Who was the "friend"? Will Schryver? It sort of makes you wonder if the L-Skinny crew is sharing videos like this on a routine basis.

Regardless, let this serve as a fair warning to those who are using the Socialcam app!
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Can't. Stop. Laughing. Ohmygod.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:Regardless, let this serve as a fair warning to those who are using the Socialcam app!


I don't use it. Unlike DCP, I have a reputation worth protecting.
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That is hilarious. But I do feel bad for the good Dr. I don't post a lot on Facebook, but I'm tempted to delete my Facebook account because of this type of thing.
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I just keep my eyes open during the prayer to see who else has their eyes open during the prayer, so it's OK.
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You know what's funny, I've got a collection of screen grabs just like the one in the OP. Every single one of them is a screen grab of an LDS Facebook friend fallen victim to Socialcam and that's significant because I've only ever seen those things from LDS Facebook friends. Over the years, I've yet to see any of my non-LDS Facebook friends fall for it.

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I have it on good authority (my own experience) that Dan objects to sexualized references. Objects loudly. For years, even. Even when his reaction was both unwarrented and silly.

But still... always good to be prepared.
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dang I wonder if dan will leave the church now that he's obviously addicted to porn and all.

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Hasa Diga Eebowai wrote:This is hilarious!!

The video is pretty tame, but the funniest thing is the story DCP makes with it. Why the convoluted story DCP?? Why don't you just admit you wanted to check out J-Lo shaking her J-Lo but you aren't going to find anything "funny or significant in it" :lol: :lol: :lol: So you have a thing for Latina women, who doesn't?

The name of the video is just priceless. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks,

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Hasa Diga Eebowai wrote:This is hilarious!!

The video is pretty tame, but the funniest thing is the story DCP makes with it. Why the convoluted story DCP??


That is what's so pathetic. If he could laugh at himself and admit he watched it, instead of blaming some anonymous "friend", it wouldn't be a big deal. His cover-up is funnier than his crime.
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DarkHelmet wrote:
Hasa Diga Eebowai wrote:This is hilarious!!

The video is pretty tame, but the funniest thing is the story DCP makes with it. Why the convoluted story DCP??


That is what's so pathetic. If he could laugh at himself and admit he watched it, instead of blaming some anonymous "friend", it wouldn't be a big deal. His cover-up is funnier than his crime.

Actually, I can understand him saying something. Facebook is looked at by friends, colleagues, etc. If someone from BYU saw it, he could be in trouble from a job perspective.

I have a Facebook account, but don't use it that often. I can see how something like this could happen. If something like that had happened to me, I would be embarrassed, and would have likely said something. I have work colleagues who are friends of mine on Facebook, and that is something that I would be concerned about from just a common reputation standpoint.

Still, for what it's worth, Dan, if you are reading this here, I don't think it is that big of a deal. I am sure that your friends and colleagues know what type of person you are, and that this was a crazy mishap.

It does give one pause. I am going to have to monitor my Facebook account more carefully. It looks like we all should; it sounds like it is becoming a little "big brotherish".

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Too bad he isn't smart enough to turn that feature off.

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Made my day. In fact, with the amount of excitement we have around here (not much), it probably made my week.

Here is a question: If the same thing were posted about Dr. Scratch, and the good Dr. were to offer the same explanation for the post as DCP, what would you imagine the reactions (both private and overt) of the true believers would be?
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This has been a truly illuminating moment. It just feels right: the world seems a better place to live in knowing that Dan Peterson watches videos featuring "hot booty shaking." You know, I think that I will screen this film for my graduate Mopologetics Studies seminar, and we can then practice deconstructing the semiotics therein and view them through a Schryverian lens of doctrinal theory.

Now, if you don't mind, I must catch a plane to Bhutan.
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hobo1512 wrote:Too bad he isn't smart enough to turn that feature off.


I assume he's more book smart than tech smart, just as most kids today are more tech smart than book smart.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:This has been a truly illuminating moment. It just feels right: the world seems a better place to live in knowing that Dan Peterson watches videos featuring "hot booty shaking." You know, I think that I will screen this film for my graduate Mopologetics Studies seminar, and we can then practice deconstructing the semiotics therein and view them through a Schryverian lens of doctrinal theory.

Now, if you don't mind, I must catch a plane to Bhutan.

OK, this made me LOL! :lol:

May I audit your class, Dr.? It sounds interesting. :mrgreen:

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Why not just delete the post immediately...?
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Blixa wrote:Why not just delete the post immediately...?


I don't think you have that power if you accept the Socialcam ap, which is designed to spread the word about videos you watch. Once you watch the video, Socialcam tells everybody so they can watch it too. It posts on your friends' wall and you've lost control.

Many times I have clicked on an interesting-looking video on Facebook and been notified that I have to accept the ap to watch the video. Every time I see that I go, "nah, that kitten isn't cute enough to give up control of my privacy."

You can always turn off the ap later. Or just once you might forget and look foolish like DCP in this instance.
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The Dude wrote:
Blixa wrote:Why not just delete the post immediately...?


I don't think you have that power if you accept the Socialcam ap, which is designed to spread the word about videos you watch. Once you watch the video, Socialcam tells everybody so they can watch it too. It posts on your friends' wall and you've lost control.

Many times I have clicked on an interesting-looking video on Facebook and been notified that I have to accept the ap to watch the video. Every time I see that I go, "nah, that kitten isn't cute enough to give up control of my privacy."

You can always turn off the ap later. Or just once you might forget and look foolish like DCP in this instance.



Ah, you're right. You can delete it from YOUR WALL, but it's already spread to everyone's feed. God I hate apps like this. I really hate the ones that tell everybody what news article you've read, etc. Do Not Want.
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liz3564 wrote:I have a Facebook account, but don't use it that often.
I had a Facebook account, deleted after a few month.

Today, I have one, created on fictional name and all personal data.
(Many blog use Facebook to log in, and I can see the others...)

I am thinking to delete myself from iwiw because the "features" go mad.

Blixa wrote:Ah, you're right. You can delete it from YOUR WALL, but it's already spread to everyone's feed. God I hate apps like this. I really hate the ones that tell everybody what news article you've read, etc. Do Not Want.
Agree.

One (leastways sane ones) shouldn't live in display window.
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