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 Post subject: Re: Why Strong Mormon Women Stay in the Church
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:49 am 
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We are unwilling to sell our birthright for a mess of pottage.


Lolol. God. This is why I come here. Good stuff. Thank you for that.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:47 pm 
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We are unwilling to sell our birthright for a mess of pottage.

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Right. How much was the Ponderizer app again? :lol: How much holy dinero did Paul Dunn rake in from his lies? And then Joseph trying to sell the copyright...oh yeah, little flecks of history....

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:09 pm 
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We are unwilling to sell our birthright for a mess of pottage.


Lolol. God. This is why I come here. Good stuff. Thank you for that.

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Yup.

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To exchange something of great, important, or fundamental value for some financial gain [etc.,] that proves to be of little, trivial, or no value but which appears to be attractive or valuable on first reckoning. An allusion to Esau in Genesis 25:29–32, who sells to Jacob his birthright to his family's estate for a bowl of lentil stew (pottage)


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An allusion to Esau in Genesis 25:29–32, who sells to Jacob his birthright to his family's estate for a bowl of lentil stew (pottage)

Dynasties are sometimes founded on a shrewd business deal like demanding an inheritance from a starving man. This instance shows there is some biblical support for the dog-eat-dog nature of conservativism, as long as you disregard all that intervening Christian stuff.

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To exchange something of great, important, or fundamental value for some financial gain [etc.,] that proves to be of little, trivial, or no value but which appears to be attractive or valuable on first reckoning. An allusion to Esau in Genesis 25:29–32, who sells to Jacob his birthright to his family's estate for a bowl of lentil stew (pottage)


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Oh. Neat. Thanks for the lesson I was only taught, oh, I don't know, probably a hundred times because, oh, I don't know, I was a BIC, seminary, RM, temple-married TBM. Lol, you're such a rube.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:51 pm 
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I don't understand how or why she has concluded that she is a strong woman.


Define "strong woman".

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The strong Mormon women in my family left, or repudiated church doctrine such as polygamy.

These women are my heroines.

It takes a certain weakness and mental gymnastics to believe cult doctrine in the Information Age.

The intellectuals and feminists have constituted a brain drain from church membership rolls. What's left are unquestioning with blinders on. That isn't coming from a position of strength but weakness and ignorance.


No one ever said faith was easy. Learning by study and by faith is the preferred method for many of us. We are unwilling to sell our birthright for a mess of pottage.

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What birthright is that exactly?

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Here are some Strong Mormon Women:

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You know what, I was going to post about this but didn't know where to put it. Seems that it fits with this thread. Okay, so I was in Walmart yesterday (? whenever) and for the first time ever, saw two FLDS women grocery shopping. So now I'm going to get on what I think is the other side of your intended comment and say that I think that it takes a lot of courage for an FLDS woman to walk through this world and be entirely unlike the world around them.

So I do think those women in the picture are in a sense, very strong women. It depends on how you define "strong" and I don't think anyone on this thread has.

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What in the world do they mean by 'strong woman' anyway? And is there any woman reading the article who thinks she is weak?


Dang if I know. I suppose I'm obligated to read the article now.

It's a real study in human behavior to watch people throw a term around without ever defining it. Let's hope the article defines it.

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So I do think those women in the picture are in a sense, very strong women. It depends on how you define "strong" and I don't think anyone on this thread has.


Exactly. My point of being ridiculous was to point out the meaning is ubiquitous and therefore meaningless. Throwing around platitudes is just a conman's ploy to get people to fill in the blanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:23 pm 
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So I do think those women in the picture are in a sense, very strong women. It depends on how you define "strong" and I don't think anyone on this thread has.


Exactly. My point of being ridiculous was to point out the meaning is ubiquitous and therefore meaningless. Throwing around platitudes is just a conman's ploy to get people to fill in the blanks.

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Oh thank goodness. I thought one of us was losing their mind.

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When everyone is special. no one is. I think that's a quote from President Snow..

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 Post subject: Re: Why Strong Mormon Women Stay in the Church
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:41 am 
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Jersey Girl wrote:
I have a question wrote:
I don't understand how or why she has concluded that she is a strong woman.
Define "strong woman".

1. strong woman is my wife
2. seriously: see strong at - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46819 - as it is (maybe) offtopic and i don't want to ends up in outer darkness; five item is good enough to prove that:
1. i don't understand/speak english
2. some mod have no power of conception

anyway, look at offtopic...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:10 pm 
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Jersey Girl wrote:

What birthright is that exactly?


https://www.LDS.org/search?lang=eng&query=birthright

Some of these links may help bring you up to speed.

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Jersey Girl wrote:

Dang if I know. I suppose I'm obligated to read the article now.


Did you read it? If so, what are your thoughts?

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What birthright is that exactly?


https://www.LDS.org/search?lang=eng&query=birthright

Some of these links may help bring you up to speed.

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Listen to me. I wasn't inquiring of a link. I was inquiring of you. If you can't respond in your own words like a normal human being, I'm not interested.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:59 pm 
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I'm not interested.


OK.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:09 pm 
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I'm not interested.


OK.

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In replying like this you gave tacit admission that..."you can't respond in your own words like a normal human being..."

Which isn't a surprise.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:28 pm 
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I have a question wrote:

In replying like this you gave tacit admission that..."you can't respond in your own words..."


No.

I readily admit that the church has a unique view of "birthright" compared to traditional Christianity.

The link, honestly, would help her understand the LDS view on this topic and why according to our beliefs when a person leaves the church they are literally giving up their promised blessings related to covenants/blessings of exaltation.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:35 pm 
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mentalgymnast wrote:
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In replying like this you gave tacit admission that..."you can't respond in your own words..."


No.

I readily admit that the church has a unique view of "birthright" compared to traditional Christianity.

The link, honestly, would help her understand the LDS view on this topic and why according to our beliefs when a person leaves the church they are literally giving up their promised blessings related to covenants/blessings of exaltation.

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Do you not read so well?
Jersey Girl was asking your view, in your own words.
She has asked twice and you still fail to comprehend.
Is that a choice you make or are you spectacularly challenged in the reading comprehension department? (And that's a serious question based on the evidence of the exchange).

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